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Hi All,
Passing thought. Has it been considered at any point to convert the BBBD into quests, with a chronicle similar to what is awarded for silverhex. Something like:
Quests | GP | XP | PP | Other
1 | 125| 1 | 1 |
2 | 250| 1 | 1 |
3 | 375| 1 | 2 |
4 | 500| 1 | 2 | Initiate of the Society
[ ] Relics
[ ] Ruins
[ ] Terrors
[ ] Tomes
[ ] Initiate of the Society: Does something flashy one time.
Couldn't hurt to get more quests out there, and another evergreen and a decent link for beginners into organised play.
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Just putting this out there one more time given the release of the Beginner Box Bash Demos Part 2.
More quests would be great, and the hard part here seems to already be done. A cheeky blog post, a chronicle, a link in additional resources and you're done. 9 more quests available for some happy players.
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I support this idea.
Beginner Box Bash Demos Part 2 is designed for 3rd-level characters, and there are 5 quests.
A good breakdown for that one might be something like:
Quests | Gold Pieces | XP | Prestige Points | Other
1 | 200 gp | 1 | 1 |
2 | 500 gp | 1 | 1 |
3 | 500 gp | 1 | 2 |
4 | 900 gp | 1 | 2 |
5 | 1,175 gp | 1 | 2 | Some Very Nice Boon▢ Ice
▢ Isles
▢ Masks
▢ Waves
▢ Wood▢ Some Very Nice Boon This very nice boon does something nice.
amulet of natural armor +1 (2,000 gp)
cloak of resistance +1 (1,000 gp)
elemental gem (water) (2,250 gp)
potion of cure moderate wounds (300 gp)
scroll of stinking cloud (375 gp)
scroll of vampiric touch (375 gp)
wand of web (4,500 gp)
I've gone ahead and added all of the items (not always available) found during these quests.
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For the second batch, sure, because they have stats for the Pathfinder game. Run them in Pathfinder for PFS credit, sure.
The first four Beginner Box quests are not intended to be used with the Pathfinder RPG. They are designed for the Beginner Box ruleset, which is similar but which has important differences. (For example, there are no attacks of opportunity. When Ezren is being overcome by a mob of goblins, that's a tremendous difference.)
I know that PFS offered a nice racial boon to people playing through, or GMing, the Beginner Box Bash when it came out. I put that in the same category as a boon for buying novels or playing the adventure card game. I know that PFS offered a nice boon to kids who played through the Kid's Track (Beginner Box Bash scenarios) at Gen Con, and I thought it was sort of weird. If you want folks to get involved in Pathfinder Society, don't teach them a game with different rules!
I'm a little strident on this point because I kept seeing GMs at Gen Con use full-blown Pathfinder rules with the Beginner Box demos.
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The first four Beginner Box quests are not intended to be used with the Pathfinder RPG. They are designed for the Beginner Box ruleset, which is similar but which has important differences. (For example, there are no attacks of opportunity. When Ezren is being overcome by a mob of goblins, that's a tremendous difference.)
Just to clarify, do you think that the first four quests should be run using the Beginner Box rules & pregens as a quest line, or that it just shouldn't be used?
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If you want to get folks involved in the Pathfinder Society, don't teach them a game with different rules.
Beginner Box Pathfinder Society Character Creation Guide PDF
Ready for the next step from the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Beginner Box? The best way to find Pathfinder Roleplaying Game action in your area is to get involved with Pathfinder Society Organized Play, a huge international Pathfinder campaign with tens of thousands of players. This guide provides a step–by–step walkthrough of the Pathfinder Society character creation process while referring you back to the Hero’s Handbook. These instructions allow for a seamless transition from the Beginner Box to Pathfinder Society play.
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I stand by my opinion.
kinevon, I have that document. I've tried to use it with people who have played through the Beginner's Box ruleset and who want to start playing in PFS. It is not my favorite document.
Obviously, it explains some rules changes (don't roll hit points; don't roll starting funds) and it spends a lot of time warning that the full Core Rulebook (let alone the full Pathfinder PRG ruleset) has lots more options for spells, rogue talents, feats, and so on. It recommends sticking to the feats, talents, and spells of the Hero's Handbook, without indicating that there's any difference.
The problem is that the Beginner's Box isn't just a selection of the Core Rules; it's a simplification. I already mentioned attacks of opportunity. Spells don't have components and their ranges don't increase as a caster gains levels. Clerics don't need to be within an alignment step of their gods. Some feats are a little simpler. Concealment never affects sneak attacks. So on and so on and so on.
I don't want anybody to think I'm down on the BB rules. I love the game. I've demoed the heck out of the BB rules and I've gotten several groups of friends to run BB home campaigns. But. If you're building a character for PFS, you cannot be successful if you refer only to the Beginner Box Hero's Handbook. You have to refer to the Core Rulebook, the Guide to the campaign, and the Traits document.
(It is interesting to note that traits are optional in PFS. You don't need to take any traits if you don't want them.)
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That's a solid point Chris. Perhaps my initial assumption that creating a chronicle for Part 1 of the BBBD entailing little work was wrong, with the need for either a conversion of the encounters to using the PFRPG ruleset (easy enough), or supporting the beginner box more in PFS (a lot of work for a single chronicle, & not necessarily any benefit to this long term).
It'd still be great even if only Part 2 was available in PFS, and The Fox appears to have done most of the legwork already :D