Do wands count as weapons?


Rules Questions


Pretty much the title, but do wands count as weapons for say quick draw? As well as any other feats that say you can do something nifty with a weapon that I both can't think of and am not concerned with.


They do not as far as I'm aware, as much as scrolls and potions are considered weapons.

Spring-loaded wrist sheathes my friend.


Wands are not weapons, no.

Well, barring this.

Sczarni

noble peasant wrote:
do wands count as weapons for say quick draw?

Nope.

Quick Draw wrote:

You can draw weapons faster than most.

Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can draw a weapon as a free action instead of as a move action. You can draw a hidden weapon (see the Sleight of Hand skill) as a move action.
A character who has selected this feat may throw weapons at his full normal rate of attacks (much like a character with a bow).
Alchemical items, potions, scrolls, and wands cannot be drawn quickly using this feat.
Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.


Sadly, this is true, the quickdraw feat does not work with wands.

Which means that you can quickdraw a club (big stick) but not a wand (small stick).

Seems like a good place for a house rule to me.

- Torger


And it is a deliberate change from 3.5. Wands were explicitly 'weapon-like' for purposes for Quickdraw.

Sovereign Court

The one I see variation on is whether you can draw a wand as part of your move action if your BAB is +1

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

A spring loaded wrist sheathes will allow you to "draw" a wand as a swift action. It does provoke an AOA though


Dubgall wrote:
A spring loaded wrist sheathes will allow you to "draw" a wand as a swift action. It does provoke an AOA though

That provokes? Really? AFAIK, swift actions never provoke. Did that change?

Sczarni

Dubgall wrote:
A spring loaded wrist sheathes will allow you to "draw" a wand as a swift action. It does provoke an AoO though

Careful. The text isn't that it provokes, but that it "provokes as normal".

Since drawing a weapon doesn't provoke, drawing a weapon with a spring-loaded wrist sheath doesn't provoke, either, but drawing things like scrolls or potions still would.

Hence why you have to ask your GM if they consider wands to be weaponlike.

But, either way, it's a no go with Quick Draw.

Sean H wrote:
AFAIK, swift actions never provoke. Did that change?

It was never a thing. Swift action spells do not provoke, and many people incorrectly use that as a basis for a general rule.


you can quickdraw an improvised weapon, right?
how is anything not an improvised weapon?

Sczarni

Ellioti wrote:

you can quickdraw an improvised weapon, right?

how is anything not an improvised weapon?

If it's not "weaponlike" ;-)

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