Works fine. Mage Armour is an armour bonus to AC. the monk bonus is untyped.
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but does it violate the unarmored part? or is force armor not real armor?
"1 bonus to AC" isn't "+1 armor bonus"
"providing a +4 armor bonus to AC." is not worn armor.
Keep in mind there is a minority contingent that asserts that everything that gives an armor bonus to AC is actually armor. I don't agree with them and a large number of others also don't agree.
but does it violate the unarmored part? or is force armor not real armor?"1 bonus to AC" isn't "+1 armor bonus"
"providing a +4 armor bonus to AC." is not worn armor.
Keep in mind there is a minority contingent that asserts that everything that gives an armor bonus to AC is actually armor. I don't agree with them and a large number of others also don't agree.
FWIW, I've never run across anyone make that assertion in PFS play (which represents a fair quantity of GMs and players), so it sounds like a very small minority. (Also, mage armor is a spell effect, not an actual "thing" at all, so it isn't "worn" in any sense of the word.)
I think the question is less "is force armor real armor?" and more "did I purchase it from an 'Armor' table?".
Asking it this way covers Bracers of Armor: these are "worn" and they grant an "armor bonus". However, they are magic items, and do not appear on an "Armor" table anywhere--not even the "magic armor" tables. (Also, if bracers of armor carry all the negative effects as "worn armor", then they are waaaaay overpriced!)
But as always, ask your GM--that's the opinion that counts.
but does it violate the unarmored part? or is force armor not real armor?
Is a Wizard with Mage Armor active in violation of casting spells while wearing armor?
Nope.
It is not "armor" it is a spell that grants an Armor bonus, that is all.
Is a Wizard with Mage Armor active in violation of casting spells while wearing armor?
Nope.
It is not "armor" it is a spell that grants an Armor bonus, that is all.
I don't disagree that Mage Armor isn't armor, however there is no such thing as 'violation of casting spells while wearing armor' for wizards.
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Keep in mind that the monk restriction:
When wearing armor, using a shield, or carrying a medium or heavy load, a monk loses his AC bonus, as well as his fast movement and flurry of blows abilities.
It specifies wearing armor, not getting an armor bonus. This allows them to benefit from Armor bonuses so long as they don't come from worn armor. Bracers for example are not armor, so they don't activate that restriction even if they do provide an Armor bonus.
By extension could a Monk wear a Corset of Dire Witchcraft without penalty? It isn't classified at armor and really just provides a permanent Mage Armor feature.
I had never really thought about that before as an option...
but does it violate the unarmored part? or is force armor not real armor?"1 bonus to AC" isn't "+1 armor bonus"
"providing a +4 armor bonus to AC." is not worn armor.
Keep in mind there is a minority contingent that asserts that everything that gives an armor bonus to AC is actually armor. I don't agree with them and a large number of others also don't agree.
That minority is wrong and has always been wrong. Bracers of Armor have been designed to work with Monks since 1st edition.
Now just to get some SWEET Monk Hexes... oh... YES!
lol
In the event of found loot or witch NPCs... Also bracers are nice but they leave much to be desired when it comes to the lift and separate of the corset's support :)
Keep in mind there is a minority contingent that asserts that everything that gives an armor bonus to AC is actually armor. I don't agree with them and a large number of others also don't agree.
For what it's worth, Paizo stat blocks frequently have Monks wearing Bracers of Armor or drinking potions of Mage Armor.
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I don't disagree that Mage Armor isn't armor, however there is no such thing as 'violation of casting spells while wearing armor' for wizards.Is a Wizard with Mage Armor active in violation of casting spells while wearing armor?
Nope.
It is not "armor" it is a spell that grants an Armor bonus, that is all.
I think what Canthin was trying to say is that the spell Mage Armor, just like the Bracers of Armor X wondrous item, do not provide an Arcane Spell Failure chance, as they are not real armor.
Either that, or Canthin was having a flashback to the old OD&D/AD&D days...
White box, for the win!
Slight necro here.
So would this also allow the use of the shield spell?
Shield creates an invisible shield of force that hovers in front of you. It negates magic missile attacks directed at you. The disk also provides a +4 shield bonus to AC. This bonus applies against incorporeal touch attacks, since it is a force effect. The shield has no armor check penalty or arcane spell failure chance.
It's a weird build around "bladed brush" so I started with a level in cleric an get shield as a domain spell :-)
Just asked my group if they let me switch from human to Hobgoblin.
We'll see how that goes.
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I used a Cloak of the Hedge Wizard on my PFS monk to cast shield 1/day. Plus endure elements 1/day, so essentially always on. He was very comfortable in his robe's no matter the climate. But the AC boost from shield is huge when you can get it. On top of mage armor, wis to AC, monk AC bonus, and potentially spending ki for AC, you can boost your AC really high.