Knife master With Sap Master

[Theodor Snuddletusk]

I thought i found it somewhere on this forum, but now i cant re-find it.

I have a knife master rogue and i would love to use the sap adapt/master feats.

Problem is ofc that my daggers do not deal non-lethal damage, but i am quite sure there was a way to fix that. The post i read earlier at least said so, but i was drunk and on my phone, so now i cant find it :P

[Theodor Snuddletusk]

Bludgeoner (Combat)
You can knock foes out cold with just about any blunt instrument.

Benefit: You take no penalty on attack rolls for using a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage.
Normal: You take a –4 penalty on attack rolls when using a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage. You cannot use a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack.

Special: A rogue with this feat can use a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage with a sneak attack.

[Imbicatus]

The problem is that Sap Adept/Master requires you to do non-lethal with a bludgeoning weapon. There is not any bludgeoning weapon that is allowed by knife master. You could take weapon versatility to make the knife do bludgeoning damage, and then take the bludgeoner feat.

This does take three feats to make work. I don't know if it's worth it.

[Dafydd]

well, a merciful dagger would work

Also there is a blade of mercy trait. This might actually be better, as it gives a +1 to damage too. Religion: Saranrae, so there is that restriction.

Edit: missed the part about bludgeoning in sap adept feat

[CyderGnome]

Dafydd wrote:

well, a merciful dagger would work

Also there is a blade of mercy trait. This might actually be better, as it gives a +1 to damage too. Religion: Saranrae, so there is that restriction.

Edit: missed the part about bludgeoning in sap adept feat

Not PFS friendly, but you could always see if your GM would let you classify a Kunai as one of the weapons that work with Knife Master.

(Of course then you have to deal with people assuming you're a Naruto fanboy...)

[Imbicatus]

I'd allow sai to work too in a home game, but again, not PFS legal.

[blackbloodtroll]

Weapon Versatility will allow you to deal bludgeoning damage with daggers.