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I am making a CORE halfling fighter with a lance. I have planned feat/gold expenditure progression through level 11, and this is what I have so far:
Strength is 14 (+2 mod)
Lance wielded 2H is 2d6 + 3 base damage
Rhino Hide magic armor adds 2d6 to a charge
+1 magic weapon on the lance adds +1 damage
Vicious enchantment on weapon adds 2d6 damage
Spirited Charge triples my lance damage on a charge
Max power attack at level 8+ adds 9 damage
Vital strike adds weapon damage again to damage
Improved Vital Strike adds weapon damage again to damage
Assuming all of these work together (which I believe they do), how much damage does my character do on a mounted charge with the lance? I understand how doubled doubles and tripled doubles, etc work (you add instead of multiply)--I just don't know the order of applying the different layers of damage bonuses. I should also point out that in reading the CRB, none of these bonuses indicate a type (circumstance, trait, etc). They are all unidentified types of damage.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You cannot Vital Strike on a charge.
Extra Dice (such as from Vicious or Rhino Hide) are never multiplied.
The base damage of a small-sized Lance is 1d6, not 2d6.
Out of curiosity, because I've not really been 100% sure how it works, can you vital strike if your mount is the one charging? I ask because the mount move and attacks seems different, like how you can full attack with a bow from horseback while the horse moves.
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You could argue that vital strike works with some finagling;
When your mount charges you take the penalty to AC, and gain the bonus to hit on your only attack (you're limited to one per round if your mount moves more than 5'). Additionally the flavortext/explanation states you "cannot take a full attack" if the mount moves more than 5'.
So you could tell your GM something to the effect of "well this means I get all the advantages and disadvantages of charge and still have a standard action."
Just be aware that if the GM reads the text that interpretation is sketchy.
The text about charging states that you and your mount are both charging; my interpretation is that both mount and rider charge (as the full round action), but you're limited to one attack (regardless of whether you have pounce etc).
Relevant Text:
When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can't make a full attack. Even at your mount's full speed, you don't take any penalty on melee attacks while mounted.
If your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).
There has been a few on this. http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9ru6. when a mounted combatant charges, both are charging.
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There has been a few on this. http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9ru6. when a mounted combatant charges, both are charging.You could argue that vital strike works with some finagling;
When your mount charges you take the penalty to AC, and gain the bonus to hit on your only attack (you're limited to one per round if your mount moves more than 5'). Additionally the flavortext/explanation states you "cannot take a full attack" if the mount moves more than 5'.
So you could tell your GM something to the effect of "well this means I get all the advantages and disadvantages of charge and still have a standard action."
Just be aware that if the GM reads the text that interpretation is sketchy.
The text about charging states that you and your mount are both charging; my interpretation is that both mount and rider charge (as the full round action), but you're limited to one attack (regardless of whether you have pounce etc).
Relevant Text:
When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can't make a full attack. Even at your mount's full speed, you don't take any penalty on melee attacks while mounted.
If your mount charges, you also take the AC penalty associated with a charge. If you make an attack at the end of the charge, you receive the bonus gained from the charge. When charging on horseback, you deal double damage with a lance (see Charge).
Wow, my phone butchered that. Let me link that FAQ better.
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Out of curiosity, because I've not really been 100% sure how it works, can you vital strike if your mount is the one charging? I ask because the mount move and attacks seems different, like how you can full attack with a bow from horseback while the horse moves.
You used to be able to, but that was done away with last year. There was much crying out for rebuilds in PFS because of the sudden change.
The current FAQs establish that both mount and rider use the charge action together.