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I think I might have teared up a little bit there at the end.
I'm actually a little more excited and hopeful now. Only time will tell though...
I need a cigarette.
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F~~! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We're
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Darn, need to wait until tonight to check it out...
Well, it appears better then the first trailer at least.
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I noticed the same thing Callum.
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I noticed the same thing Callum.
They are just reusing a slightly edited version of his talk with Leia from RoTJ for the trailer...
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Much better trailer...
Although...darn...seeing Harrison Ford at the end just makes ME feel old.
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They are certainly good at playing the nostalgia card.
And everything else, too, it seems.
The only purely nostalgia thing would be Han and Chewy at the end (with his comments).
Everything else is perfect for a teaser trailer for, well, any kine of film, really. Which is a really intelligent way to do things.
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This trailer made my day, it was so much better than the first one.
On the first trailer it introduced the new main characters Rey, Finn, BB8, and Kylo Ren all of whom I immediately disliked in the admittedly few seconds I saw them. There was no sign of our beloved characters from episode 6, no sign of any interesting plot (the main failings of episode 1-3), and the trailer music itself was jarring and annoying.
Trailer #2 makes me excited about the movie all over again. The scene with the crashed star destroyer? Awesome how it almost looks like a mountain at first, then as the camera pans across the desert you see it for what it is.
Then the characters from episode 6 were re-introduced, huzzah!
And then at the 60 second mark things really got awesome. The trailer music really synced well with the action going on at that point. The action clips themselves were great, I especially liked the scene with the stormtroopers in formation turning around to face the audience, almost as if to say, "We're back!"
Then having a dogfight inside the wreckage of the star destroyer from earlier in the trailer? Sure, why not!
So yeah, JJ Abrams I think is definitely going to wow us with the action scenes. I'm still worried about the plot, as his track record is much less impressive in that regard, and most of what we've seen and heard about the new characters so far worries me.
On other news sites, I've heard that the Empire has renamed itself to
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Excited, but still a bit pissed about them ignoring the expanded universe. Was really hoping this trilogy would follow the Solo twins.
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Considering how every movie that comes out now days is based on a novel... and Everyone everywhere does nothing but complain that the movie isn't as good as the book...
I'm really glad that this is an original story with no ties to 50+ books that everyone already obsessed over.
Add in the fact that Star Wars fans can be more rabid then 'normal' fans... and they already tore apart the last trilogy...
This is really a GOOD thing.
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The thing about the EU is sure, it had some gems but it also had some unadulterated s$##. We won't be getting Shatterpoint or Traitor or the Wraiths, but we don't have to suffer through Crystal Star, anything by KJA or Legacy.
That doesn't mean what they will give us will be in any way better than the EU average, and what they've given us so far has indicated otherwise.
You speak craziness.
FOR THE ONE SITH!
We don't really know the full political situation in the new movies. Some have suggested that their might be some sort of cold war situation between the Imperial Remnant(s) and the New Republic, while the Resistance would be some sort of rebel group operating within the Imperial Remnant.
It will be the greatest even in the history of cinema.
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Well I almost always didn't like a majority of the EU, in fact thought it dumb. I think it's great they are ignoring MUCH of it, but I think it's a almost disgraceful that they are ignoring the Thrawn Trilogy (the original book trilogy that sparked the Star Wars Rennaissance).
If anything THAT should be considered Canon. I figure the ONLY reason they don't is because Abrahms has trouble with Canon as we saw from how he treated Star Trek Canon.
He simply can't act within any guidelines...or at least that's pretty much what I gather from how he treats franchises.
THEY SHOULD have kept the Thrawn trilogy, and that's speaking of someone who really doesn't like the EU.
I expect that will mean there will eventually be two Canon's...the Lucas Canon that is official to some, and the Disney Princess Canon.
If they had tossed some of the Lucas Canon (the more popular portions) and tossed the rest of it, they may not have split the fanbase like they probably will end up doing.
Personally I would have just set the movies a couple of hundred years in the future...that would have allowed them to keep the most of the EU cannon.
I still worry the movie will try to replace plot and acting with nostalgia, making it less a new movie and more a "Star Wars Greatest Hits"
That was a huge problem with Star Trek Into Darkness IMHO.
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They are certainly good at playing the nostalgia card.And everything else, too, it seems.
The only purely nostalgia thing would be Han and Chewy at the end (with his comments).
Everything else is perfect for a teaser trailer for, well, any kine of film, really. Which is a really intelligent way to do things.
Well, that and the "the force runs in my family" quote that they took from Return of the Jedi.
I remain suspicious about this, since (a) I think the J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies suck and (b) if I allow myself to get too excited about this movie I am likely to set myself up for a major disappointment.
So even though seeing Han and Luke and R2 and hearing the Star Wars fanfare tugs at my heart strings, I try to look at things dejectedly. This will crumble to nothing as the movie approaches though. I mean, it's freaking Star Wars we are talking about here.
Well I almost always didn't like a majority of the EU, in fact thought it dumb. I think it's great they are ignoring MUCH of it, but I think it's a almost disgraceful that they are ignoring the Thrawn Trilogy (the original book trilogy that sparked the Star Wars Rennaissance).
If anything THAT should be considered Canon. I figure the ONLY reason they don't is because Abrahms has trouble with Canon as we saw from how he treated Star Trek Canon.
He simply can't act within any guidelines...or at least that's pretty much what I gather from how he treats franchises.
THEY SHOULD have kept the Thrawn trilogy, and that's speaking of someone who really doesn't like the EU.
I expect that will mean there will eventually be two Canon's...the Lucas Canon that is official to some, and the Disney Princess Canon.
If they had tossed some of the Lucas Canon (the more popular portions) and tossed the rest of it, they may not have split the fanbase like they probably will end up doing.
What actually happened during the Thrawn trilogy again? It has been 20+ years since I read it, but I remember it was set VERY recent after the first trilogy... and don't remember any real lasting effects. There was a luke cloned from his lost hand... I think an emperor clone maybe? Some Moff's still trying to restart the empire and failing... I remember luke wondering if Yoda even used a lightsaber as he'd never seen him with one... (/deletes prequels)
We still have a 30 year gap between old and new... what was there in that trilogy that would even be mentioned 30 years later? Is there any reason that we can't STILL consider that Canon in our heads? Impossible to really know till we see it I'm sure... but they would have to be pretty specific in order to completely negate things I suspect...
They are certainly good at playing the nostalgia card.And everything else, too, it seems.
The only purely nostalgia thing would be Han and Chewy at the end (with his comments).
Everything else is perfect for a teaser trailer for, well, any kine of film, really. Which is a really intelligent way to do things.
Well, that and the "the force runs in my family" quote that they took from Return of the Jedi.
I remain suspicious about this, since (a) I think the J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies suck and (b) if I allow myself to get too excited about this movie I am likely to set myself up for a major disappointment.
So even though seeing Han and Luke and R2 and hearing the Star Wars fanfare tugs at my heart strings, I try to look at things dejectedly. This will crumble to nothing as the movie approaches though. I mean, it's freaking Star Wars we are talking about here.
Actually, no, that line is not purely nostalgia.
The original to compare. There is a very, important extra line in the trailer, a line that sets up something important: the fact that there is someone else with the force ability (and probably within the Skywalker family). For those who've not seen or are only passingly familiar with the older films, it tells that there is a mysterious "power" called "the Force" and it seems to run strong in some family lines (including the one being set up in this film).
This is pretty classic trailer for setting groundwork and describing films of all kinds; in this case, it also references an older film, and thus also hits the nostalgia buttons... but doesn't do so exclusively.
The Han and Chewie thing? Tells us exceedingly little (save that their "homecoming" looks more violent -or at least dangerous/tenuous than expected, considering both of their weapons are leveled directly at the same spot). The fact that there's a creature named Chewie and it and its human friend come "home" means nothing to anyone who lacks a familiarity with the film franchise.
This is what I mean by purely nostalgia.
To be sure, the entire trailer is dripping with nostalgia, and doing so on purpose. The tie fighters, the crashed Star Destroyer, the 'Falcon, the quote in question, the music, most everything.
But it's also a solid stand-on-its-own trailer that seems to take itself as a film on its own, and presents itself in such a way as to appeal to a brand new audience.
Both of these are good things. I'm not telling you that you should get excited, but I definitely am. :D
I was unwilling to get this excited. Alas. :D
EDIT: Incidentally, since my initial post, I discovered someone else who agrees with me and might explain it better than I. :D
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What actually happened during the Thrawn trilogy again? It has been 20+ years since I read it, but I remember it was set VERY recent after the first trilogy... and don't remember any real lasting effects. There was a luke cloned from his lost hand... I think an emperor clone maybe? Some Moff's still trying to restart the empire and failing... I remember luke wondering if Yoda even used a lightsaber as he'd never seen him with one... (/deletes prequels)
We still have a 30 year gap between old and new... what was there in that trilogy that would even be mentioned 30 years later? Is there any reason that we can't STILL consider that Canon in our heads? Impossible to really know till we see it I'm sure... but they would have to be pretty specific in order to completely negate things I suspect...
The Thrawn trilogy was one of the most popular, probably THE most popular part of the EU. Its success paved the way for the rest of the EU, some of which was good, some of which was OK, and some of which was terrible.
The basic plot:
After the end of episode 6 the Empire schisms into warlordism and the rebels take advantage of this to push them out of two thirds of the galaxy and create a New Republic to replace the old one.
But a previously unknown high ranking Imperial officer (Grand Admiral Thrawn) returns from uncharted space at the head of an armada. He unites many of the Imperial factions behind him and proceeds to win a string of major victories against the New Republic. Thrawn is a tactical genius, sort of like a spacefaring Napoleon who comes up with many complex and clever battle plans.
The series ends with the death of Thrawn at the hands of one of his bodyguards (an action which was indirectly caused by the heroes).
Of course we won't know until the movie comes out, but the above plot does not sync well with what we know about episode 7.
Well I almost always didn't like a majority of the EU, in fact thought it dumb. I think it's great they are ignoring MUCH of it, but I think it's a almost disgraceful that they are ignoring the Thrawn Trilogy (the original book trilogy that sparked the Star Wars Rennaissance).
If anything THAT should be considered Canon. I figure the ONLY reason they don't is because Abrahms has trouble with Canon as we saw from how he treated Star Trek Canon.
He simply can't act within any guidelines...or at least that's pretty much what I gather from how he treats franchises.
THEY SHOULD have kept the Thrawn trilogy, and that's speaking of someone who really doesn't like the EU.
I expect that will mean there will eventually be two Canon's...the Lucas Canon that is official to some, and the Disney Princess Canon.
If they had tossed some of the Lucas Canon (the more popular portions) and tossed the rest of it, they may not have split the fanbase like they probably will end up doing.
Those are the same canons. Well, technically the current Disney one is larger since Lucas only considered the six movies and maybe the CGI Clone Wars canon.
The books, the Ewoks TV movies, the comics, the video games, the RPGS, everything else? Lucas ignored it.
Actually Lucas took several things from the Thrawn Trilogy and put them in the prequel trilogy. Coruscant for example was something that first came up in the Thrawn trilogy, as was the chiss race, and several other elements that appeared in the prequel trilogies (though Coruscant was probably the most significantly starred item that had the greatest impact on the prequels...IMO of course).
Now, his books may not have had as great an impact as the West End Games did on the prequels, but I think his contributions were recognized by Lucas, especially considering they went with the name he used for the Capital City planet instead of something else.
They are certainly good at playing the nostalgia card.And everything else, too, it seems.
The only purely nostalgia thing would be Han and Chewy at the end (with his comments).
Everything else is perfect for a teaser trailer for, well, any kine of film, really. Which is a really intelligent way to do things.
Well, that and the "the force runs in my family" quote that they took from Return of the Jedi.
I remain suspicious about this, since (a) I think the J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies suck and (b) if I allow myself to get too excited about this movie I am likely to set myself up for a major disappointment.
So even though seeing Han and Luke and R2 and hearing the Star Wars fanfare tugs at my heart strings, I try to look at things dejectedly. This will crumble to nothing as the movie approaches though. I mean, it's freaking Star Wars we are talking about here.
[Emphasis mine] Did you mean that Lord Snow? Or "objectively". If you try to look at things dejectedly I guarantee you will see subpar, morally bankrupt, idea-vacuums masquerading as entertainment. I don't try to look at things this way, but it ends up like that. Just...can't...seem...to...remove the +2 jaded goggles of scathing critique, +4 vs trilogies and quadrilogies, +6 versus boggy trotter and the ill fed wince
I think I might have teared up a little bit there at the end.
I'm actually a little more excited and hopeful now. Only time will tell though...
Thanks for the link Shin.
Pretty much maintains my lack of delight and my complete dislike of visual aesthetics I had when I saw the first teaser. (Lack of) style I don't like (droid looks foolish, new characters have no magnetism, bad guys armor lines not to my aesthetic taste, Vader's smash/burned helmet is woeful) over substance. Of which there is already precious little in the fantasy/space romp genre.
Looks like Famous Five meets Spaceballs.
I'm sure my son will love it. :)
I agree it is great to see Walking Carpet and the Nerf-herder at the end though. If only Chewie had turned grey, but then I don't assume any knowledge about how old he was in SW 4-6 or how long wookiees live or if they do turn grey...
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Slightly off topic, I wish everyone would stop blasting the new droid as looking silly. Seriously, half the droids in the original trilogy looked silly (everyone remember the boxy rectangle with legs?).
I for one am extremely happy they decided to make a real functioning droid as opposed to more CGI crap.
I apologize in advance for mentioning this, but remember how fake even the first scene in the phantom menace looked due to overuse of CGI, and how it got worse and worse even before Jar Jar showed up..
I don't get any of that kind of feeling from this trailer or the first.
Anyway, I will be happy to fork over the dough to see it, just as I was to see the Hangover 3. The difference is that I only went to see the Hanover 3 once, whereas I expect I will be seeing teh Force awakens at east 5-10 times at the box office and untold times after once the dvd comes out.
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Considering I have loved just about everything J.J. has done. Including making the two BEST Trek movies ever. I'm liking what I'm seeing.