If We Did in Real Life What We Do In Pathfinder


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Every athlete race of a certain distance would have the same winning times, always with one guy far ahead of the others, and all the competitors would have anger issues.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Throw away or leave behind any denominations of money less than $100 bills.

If you wait several decades (or maybe a bit over a century), you won't need Pathfinder for this -- inflation will do the job regardless. Of course, with Pathfinder, the currency would weigh a lot more, thus increasing the incentive to leave behind the low-valued denominations.


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Randarak wrote:
There'd be a thieves union (as opposed to guild)...oh wait...

What happens when they go on strike. Nobody gets robbed until their terms of employment improve.

But what is really complicated when they go on a work to rule.


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Randarak wrote:
There'd be a thieves union (as opposed to guild)...oh wait...

Or maybe a government thieving department. Except you don't need Pathfinder for that . . . .


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I really wish that I could rewind time and redo my decisions after time stops and the creator of my world asks me "are you sure?" when I decided to do something monumentally stupid.


Isn't that what church is for....


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captain yesterday wrote:
Isn't that what church is for....

I can get into that in a PM if it's more than a small zing.

But suffice to say, I don't believe any religion has yet claimed that regular attendance will allow mastery of time and an ability to undo your decisions, merely forgiveness for them on a spiritual level - which doesn't undo any consequences for said actions here on Earth.


No, I don't need to talk religion :-)

I doubt if we'll have much to disagree on there, and no offense to others (religious types mostly) but I find talking religion boring :-)


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Wouldn't it be awesome if you could save your progress before any interview...


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... or better yet, when you see the interview going south you could stab him and take all his money... wait! Is that why I wasn't hired at Barns and Nobleman's?

Stupid, Pepe! Stupid


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Terquem wrote:
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could save your progress before any interview...

Bugger that! Who needs to work when you can save between hands at blackjack?! Did nobody else break the bank of every casino in New Vegas?


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Yeah, but in real Vegas, that gets you kicked out... >.>


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Isn't that what church is for....

I can get into that in a PM if it's more than a small zing.

But suffice to say, I don't believe any religion has yet claimed that regular attendance will allow mastery of time and an ability to undo your decisions...

Evidently you've never been to Our Lady of Perpetual Do-over.

captain yesterday wrote:
... no offense to others (religious types mostly) but I find talking religion boring :-)

No offense taken ... and you're talking with the wrong people. ;)


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Woo! Buuuurrrrnnn~!

But, hey, man, at least we ain't no Quakers, amirite?!

Man, those people...

For the record, captainyesterday is a Quaker, hence the joking nature of this post.


Religions just plant your dead and promise they will resurrect in the end times. I'm going to have my body cremated and try very hard not to reincarnate in lousy real life.

In Pathfinder you can actually meet a god and ask him, her, or it why they made you allergic to chocolate, oranges, sodium nitrate, and cigarette smoke/steam.

Discussing religion like this actually makes me feel a little better.


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Goth Guru wrote:


In Pathfinder you can actually meet a god and ask him, her, or it why they made you allergic to chocolate, oranges, sodium nitrate, and cigarette smoke/steam.

Over 55% of the real world believes that we will have such an opportunity as well, you know. ...And that's just the Abrahamic faiths, I have no idea how that works in any religions beyond the "big 5", but I'm almost certain that Hinduism has the option to grow one with Brahman and know all things if you get enough positive karma, so that would add another 15%, although for them it isn't so much a guarantee.

...is that true, cap, are you a Quaker?

Edited for spelling correction.


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Yes I'm Quaker, however I, unlike other Midwestern Quakers can cook :-)


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I think you mean "Brahman."

"Brahmin" is a caste. "Brahman" is a god-concept.

Largely unimportant, but I'm a former proofreader, and we're petty.


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Corrected - thanks for the info.


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Trolling would be rightly rewarded when an Explosive Rune was messaged to the troll.

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Quakers? Do they play Quake?


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Some do I'm sure, I don't :-)

A taste for Oatmeal is a must :-)


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Religious group that split off from the Church of England. Captain Yesterday's joke is a reference to the Quaker brand of oats, which features a man in traditional getup of a Quaker on the box.

You guys need to remember not everyone is American :-P If I recall correctly, Hama isn't.


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Also Richard Nixon was Quaker :-)

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Is that considered a good thing? I though Nixon didn't have the best of reputations.


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Oh come on he was a pillar of ethics :-)

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Yeah. Especially when he said that he's not a crook :D


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He did at least attempt to end Vietnam upon taking office, which lines up with their anti war views.

Nobody is a model of their religion. We all fall short. That's actually the entire point of the currently most popular religion. You can't judge a philosophy by those who agree with it, only by it's internal merits.


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"Timothy Leary's brother, Really Leary, announced a new religious formation today that claims that when you die, your soul goes to a garage in Buffalo." - George Carlan

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The Green Tea Gamer wrote:

He did at least attempt to end Vietnam upon taking office, which lines up with their anti war views.

Nobody is a model of their religion. We all fall short. That's actually the entire point of the currently most popular religion. You can't judge a philosophy by those who agree with it, only by it's internal merits.

I don't judge a philosophy, I judge stupid ideas and people who do bad things.


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The Green Tea Gamer wrote:

He did at least attempt to end Vietnam upon taking office, which lines up with their anti war views.

Nobody is a model of their religion. We all fall short. That's actually the entire point of the currently most popular religion. You can't judge a philosophy by those who agree with it, only by it's internal merits.

And going by their internal merits, all the Abrahamitic religions are a) in favour of slavery, b) in favour of cruel and excessive punishments even for things that should in no way be punished, c) in favour of detailed and extensive moralistic rules for every aspect of life. This is simply by the texts. If you instead go by what their respective power structures (churches) have done, the situation doesn't get much better. In some cases, unbelievably worse.

Some Abrahamitic followers are good examples of what humanity should be like. When they are, they are so DESPITE what the books say and what the power structures say. Faith yes, religion no.


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It's quite easily to be judgmental, condemn people for all sorts of things, be it a particular religious view or even something as trivial as a game designer's choice to get rid of some of the Barbarian's rage powers.

It's harder to try your best and get sidelined by external forces that are often outside of your control.

Self-esteem, Identity, tradition, politics, is just a few things that interfere with where we are and where we are going.

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Hm, I did away with most of that stuff. Tradition is usually bad, unless it's just for fun and cannot harm anyone. Politics I don't take any interest in. Identity is completely unimportant to me if it is based on something external.
As fro Self-esteem, I sometimes struggle with that facet of my personality, but usually come out on top.


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Morzadian: Not condemning anyone, as you can see. Merely stating the obvious, that all the people involved in churches that (say) condemn homosexuals have choices to make. Demand and effect change, or leave, or carry their part of responsibility for what the church does. Huge organizations are rarely a good thing. This is one of the reasons.

I believe the Bible is clear about it: (sorry about translation here) By their fruit you shall know them. Or otherwise put: What someone does is what tells you who they are.


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Well, if I were my character in real life, usually what happens here is I mumble to myself, "Well, I tried talking things out. Seems that didn't work. Flame strike! Who's deity is true now?!"

...what do you mean alignment shift?! I was acting in character, defending my God! WHAT DO YOU MEAN I LOST ALL MY POWERS?! F*** THIS MESS, I'M CONVERTING TO NORGORBER!


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Sissyl wrote:

Morzadian: Not condemning anyone, as you can see. Merely stating the obvious, that all the people involved in churches that (say) condemn homosexuals have choices to make. Demand and effect change, or leave, or carry their part of responsibility for what the church does. Huge organizations are rarely a good thing. This is one of the reasons.

I believe the Bible is clear about it: (sorry about translation here) By their fruit you shall know them. Or otherwise put: What someone does is what tells you who they are.

I didn't post your quote it wasn't aimed at you, just a general comment.

My mother grew up in an orphanage (run by nuns), an orphanage known for child abuse and my mother didn't come out unscathed.

And so that's my family tradition, myself, and all my brothers and sisters are atheists. Yet other people's traditions or experiences are quite different, and it believe its unfair to put everyone in the same basket.

Moral high ground can be easier for some, hard for others, depending on circumstances.

Life is hard for all of us. And trying to understand people instead of blaming them is harder to do but has less dire consequences. You push back too hard and the 'bad' can easily become 'rotten' very quickly.


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Yes. So we need to keep a focus on the individual person. Huge orgs are the same as they always been, and still act as sociopathic eight year olds.


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Sweeping generalizations about entire groups of people are wrong, and that isn't just limited to those outside of religion, Sissyl. Much evil has been done by large organizations, particularly religious, but much good has too. To lump it all together is no better than any other form of sweeping group based prejudice.

But that's okay, right? Because it's okay to judge a groups as long as they are not the minority, right?


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Sweeping generalizations about entire groups of people are wrong, and that isn't just limited to those outside of religion, Sissyl. Much evil has been done by large organizations, particularly religious, but much good has too. To lump it all together is no better than any other form of sweeping group based prejudice.

But that's okay, right? Because it's okay to judge a groups as long as they are not the minority, right?

There's a difference between voluntary organizations and racial/ethnic or other groups you are part of whether you like it or not. You can leave a church if you don't like its behavior. You can't decide not to be white anymore if you decide white people do too many bad things.

Churches also, as you say, do good things along with bad ones. And they can also change. It's up to the individual to decide whether the good outweighs the bad or whether it's worth staying and working to change the organization.

But people will still judge you by it. Both for good and bad.


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If we did in real life what we do in Pathfinder we'd attack a faith we didn't like or approve of and poop on their altars. *tries to shove the train back on track*


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Hey, I tried with my flame strike comment. People weren't having it.

I like how the guy with the name "Dungeonmaster" stepped in to keep the players from bickering among themselves.


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Oh now you're just sucking up to the Dungeon Master, it won't help, his riddle still won't make sense until it's too late to get home :-)


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captain yesterday wrote:
Oh now you're just sucking up to the Dungeon Master, it won't help, his riddle still won't make sense until it's too late to get home :-)

Well, I am a shameless favorite whore. Why do you think I post on Tacticslion's thread so much? :-P


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
If we did in real life what we do in Pathfinder we'd attack a faith we didn't like or approve of and poop on their altars. *tries to shove the train back on track*

Cause that's never happened in real life.

Edit: Nor is it something I often do in game, for that matter. Barring the kinds of faith that are sacrificing captives or some such. Those altars get desecrated after stopping the sacrificing and killing the murderers. Usually not desecrated by so crude a method though.


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Get mad when we travel halfway across the world and they don't speak common. Even worse most people know at most 2 languages instead of 1 person in every group knowing 5-10 languages.


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Baseball games would be a lot more entertaining if Orcs and Spiked Clubs were involved, just saying :-)


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Football games with real giants going against awakened bears, even more so.


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Now that's the kind of attitude Runelords are made of :-)


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
Football games with real giants going against awakened bears, even more so.

That might explain why the Dolphins went quickly defunct.


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The Dolphins have more problems than a good old fashioned Dire Bear mauling will fix:-D

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