does a held charge get negated by using an SLA


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I want to cast calcific touch wild shape and then make fly by attacks.

Now that I'm thinking about it, it is a SU ability.

Edited to add : learned calcific touch by research.


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I think using your SLA will discharge your held charge. Here's why.

Rules Quote: "In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell."

The SLA rules tell us a bunch of stuff about how SLAs are different than spells and similar to spells, but then throw on the quote above. Since they don't address held charges, we have to assume that the interaction of SLAs and held charges is per the quote.


What about wild shape being a supernatural ability.


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Rules Quote: "Supernatural Abilities (Su): Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like."

If you can still use your calcific touch in wildshaped form (there are certain requirements to be able to cast while wildshaped), the fact that wildshaping is a Supernatural Ability doesn't affect being able to hold a charge.

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can't you get natural spell, and cast it when you're already a bird?


Your GM might rule that the charge is lost, as you no longer have the appendage that was holding it...


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VRMH wrote:
Your GM might rule that the charge is lost, as you no longer have the appendage that was holding it...

I'm told that charges aren't held in any particular appendage. I don't agree, but I encounter it so much that I use a *house rule* that you determine the appendage you'll be holding the charge in at the time of casting. If you want to be able to deliver the charge an appendage that you won't have until you wildshape, then better wildshape first or choose an appendate that you will still have (although I'd let you "bite" even if you don't technically have a bite attack).


I will at some point gain the natural spell feat. But more important feats have taken its place.

Sczarni

I believe that it would cancel the Calcific Touch simply because both are magical abilities but it would be subject to a lot table variation.


Being magical is not the issue. Calcific Touch if is SU will not be canceled by Wild Shape. <---The rules.

Yeah I understand some GM may not know what the rule is.

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