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Huh, Aroden actually doesn't look much different from that guy who apparently isn't even Atlazant, probably because he also has green robes and black hair. There are differences, but its close enough.
If you want clearer pic of Irori, I couldn't find exact one from Inner Sea Gods, but he looks exactly like this
Bit confused though, are those images exact same ones you posted before or did you already replace some of the images? Since that is indeed picture of Norgorber and not cleric depiction ._. All core god sections have four images: The big one with god doing something, picture of place of worship, picture of worshiper and finally picture of just the god. And thats the one for Norgorber, his big picture is him stabbing some guy.
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This is what I have understood (I haven't read Inner See god yet)
A god is merely a powerful extraplanar.
They can be killed (the aroden case, the gods eaten by Rovagug).
They are powerful but not allmighty, as they really struggled againt Rovagug and could only seal him.
They can be made, thanks to poorly understood phlebotinum (the starstone).
But there is a constant : they need worship. They crave it. Worship give gods their power and their life.
They need it so badly that they seems to do anything to fight atheism and disbelief (use of cleric to convert the mass, creating oracle, creating a crystal made of atheist souls)
PS : I thinks the power of the gods is not statable y the present ruleset.
And it is better that way.
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Ah soz, maybe this will work here
Will update some of the pics right now.
Neat pictures!
(Norgorber, Torag and Irori need some better art, IMO, but that's nothing wrong with your collage.)
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Well, mortal can also become god without starstone. Irori kinda looks down ascended since they become gods through artifact instead of self perfection.
Also, some gods don't really give a crap whether they are worshiped or not. Groetus is the prime example. Groetus gives so little crap about whether he is worshiped or not that he gives clerics divine power without any godly responsibility or guidance, those clerics just tend to go insane after being exposed to him enough. Rovagug also kinda counts, but in his case he kinda has to rely on outside help/his spawn to get him out of the prison and continuing destruction.
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Though gods aren't killable I wouldn't mind seeing stats for the Avatar of the various gods.
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snipWell, mortal can also become god without starstone. Irori kinda looks down ascended since they become gods through artifact instead of self perfection.
My intentions was not to exclude this possibility.
But "self perfection" do not really answer the question of Where do the power come from entirely.Also, some gods don't really give a crap whether they are worshiped or not. Groetus is the prime example. Groetus gives so little crap about whether he is worshiped or not that he gives clerics divine power without any godly responsibility or guidance, those clerics just tend to go insane after being exposed to him enough.
Well, As Groetus is fed by juicy atheist souls, he does not need followers to survive.
Rovagug also kinda counts, but in his case he kinda has to rely on outside help/his spawn to get him out of the prison and continuing destruction.
Well, he is also something really different from the others.
There is the hypothesis that Rovagug is not a god, but a Qliphoth of tremendous power. And honestly, I think this is the case.
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Is there actually a confirmation that he is ascended qilippoth? <_< Inner Sea Gods at least says nothing about qilippoths.
James in his thread, yes. Just one example.
Also, per James, the gods don't actually need worship to survive. That's very different from, say, Forgotten Realms. (Neat theories, though!)
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I am not sure if there is a mention in the fluff material about Rovagug's ascension.
Its in Beyond the Something, Something Door its part of the Shattered Something or Other Adventure Path
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It's like you do this just to mess with my head, man. :P
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Of course another one with god level stuff is Serpent's Who's its Face where you have to fight the Avatar of... damn i know this one....... Tom Selleck!
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GrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAH~!
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You should see me at my family's holiday parties, 7 brothers all super nerds!
and there i am mixing up my Babylon 5 with my Star Trek, Firefly and Star Wars:-p
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Is there actually a confirmation that he is ascended qilippoth? <_< Inner Sea Gods at least says nothing about qilippoths.James in his thread, yes. Just one example.
Thanks mate. Well, I must I have missed that point when browsing the Ask James Jacobs thread.
Also, per James, the gods don't actually need worship to survive. That's very different from, say, Forgotten Realms. (Neat theories, though!)
This trope is also present in Planescape, but without the horrible wall of faithless.
No problem. I inform people because I didn't know once! :D