hell froze over?

[yellowdingo]

yeah...

So you have found yourself under six foot of snow in deep winter and it isnt even December. As some one finding the 30 degrees C (85 degrees F) annoying at night...hahaha.

[ShadowcatX]

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

[yellowdingo]

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

hundred inches expected over buffalo by Friday?

How big a snowfall is required to form a permanent glacial mass? Does it require rainfall as well?

[yellowdingo]

here comes the next wave

[yellowdingo]

roofs have begun to fall in under the weight of snow.

Okay, this might be no laughing matter. Time to evac the suburbs.

[ShadowcatX]

yellowdingo wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

hundred inches expected over buffalo by Friday?

How big a snowfall is required to form a permanent glacial mass? Does it require rainfall as well?

A lot more than 100 inches. Not that 100 inches isn't horrible, it is definitely far more than is needed to declare a state of emergency, heck, that's 33% more than the average yearly snow fall of Anchorage, Alaska. They're going to have piles of snow that may take a year or more to melt (assuming, of course, that they pile everything they scrape off into huge piles and depending on their temperatures). But it isn't even close to what is needed to form a glacier.

[Kajehase]

Also a much longer cold period.

[Orfamay Quest]

yellowdingo wrote:

How big a snowfall is required to form a permanent glacial mass? Does it require rainfall as well?

The first stage in forming a glacial mass involves the formation of "firn," a compressed type of snow/ice mixture. This typically requires about 70 meters of snow (or a weight of snow equivalent to 800 or so kg per square meter).

So, no fear for Buffalo yet.

[thejeff]

ShadowcatX wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

hundred inches expected over buffalo by Friday?

How big a snowfall is required to form a permanent glacial mass? Does it require rainfall as well?

A lot more than 100 inches. Not that 100 inches isn't horrible, it is definitely far more than is needed to declare a state of emergency, heck, that's 33% more than the average yearly snow fall of Anchorage, Alaska. They're going to have piles of snow that may take a year or more to melt (assuming, of course, that they pile everything they scrape off into huge piles and depending on their temperatures). But it isn't even close to what is needed to form a glacier.

There is no amount of snowfall required to form a permanent glacial mass. The question doesn't even make sense.

You need more snow (sleet/ice/freezing rain/etc) than melts every year on average. You could get 10 times that much in a single event and it still wouldn't make it through summer. Or you can form glaciers with much less snow, as long as the summer temperatures don't get high enough to melt it.
Apparently most of this is likely to melt over the weekend when temperatures go back up and it rains Monday. Not a good thing really - serious flooding.
The huge plowed up piles won't all melt right away, though there's no real chance they'll last through the summer.

[Hama]

Holy crap. That sucks bad. And here they are saying we're gonna have a warm, snowless winter.

I'd gladly trade some of our warmth to fix your snow problem.

[Orfamay Quest]

thejeff wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

yellowdingo wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

hundred inches expected over buffalo by Friday?

How big a snowfall is required to form a permanent glacial mass? Does it require rainfall as well?

A lot more than 100 inches.

There is no amount of snowfall required to form a permanent glacial mass. The question doesn't even make sense.

Well, it makes yellowdingo "sense." Glaciers don't have to be permanent (and, in fact, none of them really are permanent), and there's a line that separates "a lot of snow" from "a glacier." If you got 100 meters of snowpack in a single storm, that would end up compressing down to firn/ice and sliding downhill,.... a glacier. And it doesn't need to last the summer in order to do a lot of damage by sliding into and over things.

But the snowiest point on earth is, I believe. Mt. Ranier, which gets about 17m of snow every year. So the odds of getting 100m of snow without an intervening summer are pretty low. So how glaciers form is by accumulation over time. If you get 100cm per year in snow, but only 90cm melts, then you'll have 10cm more every year, and in "just" a few thousand years you'll have a glacier.

[Kajehase]

Hama wrote:

Holy crap. That sucks bad. And here they are saying we're gonna have a warm, snowless winter.

I'd gladly trade some of our warmth to fix your snow problem.

Actually, the warm weather in Europe is why it's cold in North America (and vice versa). For more detail, go see your friendly local meteorologist.

[Hama]

I am aware. Had Meteorology as one of my classes.

Well if people need more proof of global warming...

[captain yesterday]

Kajehase wrote:

Hama wrote:

Holy crap. That sucks bad. And here they are saying we're gonna have a warm, snowless winter.

I'd gladly trade some of our warmth to fix your snow problem.

Actually, the warm weather in Europe is why it's cold in North America (and vice versa). For more detail, go see your friendly local meteorologist.

true story! i once made a dry streamed on the outskirts of a news station's lot for run off, the stipulation being that the rocks used had to be too big for people to throw at the station or its employees, specifically the weather man, it actually said that on our work order for the place:)

[yellowdingo]

Hama wrote:

Holy crap. That sucks bad. And here they are saying we're gonna have a warm, snowless winter.

I'd gladly trade some of our warmth to fix your snow problem.

Another canadian pressed up agaist the glass wall at the border telling folks 'no, its warm out here...just open the door.'

[icehawk333]

Clrealy, we need more goats.

[christos gurd]

funny when clicking on this i was expecting something closer to home

[Farael the Fallen]

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one's life on fire, and is itself set on fire by the Hells. ~Book of Leafar 3:5-6

[Orfamay Quest]

Farael the Fallen wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts.

The fingertips are a small part of the body, but they type great volumes of nonsense. ~ Book of STFU 1:1

[Farael the Fallen]

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Farael the Fallen wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts.

The fingertips are a small part of the body, but they type great volumes of nonsense. ~ Book of STFU 1:1

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the Dark One who can destroy both soul and body in the Hells. ~Book of Leafar 10:28

[Orfamay Quest]

Farael the Fallen wrote:

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Farael the Fallen wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts.

The fingertips are a small part of the body, but they type great volumes of nonsense. ~ Book of STFU 1:1

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul.

Do not confuse contempt for the fool with fear of him. ~ Book of Get Your Meds Adjusted 1:1

[Farael the Fallen]

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Farael the Fallen wrote:

Orfamay Quest wrote:

Farael the Fallen wrote:

ShadowcatX wrote:

Nah, this is just typical global warming. If hell freezes over, then we'll get really cold.

The tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts.

The fingertips are a small part of the body, but they type great volumes of nonsense. ~ Book of STFU 1:1

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul.

Do not confuse contempt for the fool with fear of him. ~ Book of Get Your Meds Adjusted 1:1

Leafar said, "Let no one take me for a fool. But if you do, then tolerate me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting." ~Book of Leafar 11:16

[Hama]

Ok, I don't get if you're kidding or if you're serious. If first, not funny, if second, what the hell...