Need help convincing a player


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One of my friends I play PF with is a pretty awesome player. He likes to play witty, albeit smarta** characters. However, ever since I introduced him to Call of Cthulhu D20 (which I know is probably gonna be given hate in some replies, as I know it's reputation), he doesn't want to play Pathfinder at all. I'm not good at writing horror campaigns and I prefer PF, so what should I do to convince him to play PF again? I'm thinking about getting Carrion Crown and running that with him or a homebrew PF horror campaign (even though as I said, I can't write horror, plus I'm horrible at dungeon design, treasure hoard design, and encounter design.)

Any help is appreciated.

Sovereign Court

As a big fan of call of cthulhu, CC should work. Make sure to look into the optional sanity rules.


Pan wrote:
As a big fan of call of cthulhu, CC should work. Make sure to look into the optional sanity rules.

Ok, are the sanity rules in the Carrion Crown books, or would I have to use the ones from CoC D20?

Sovereign Court

Book 4 of CC has the rules for sanity you could look at them now and find a way to implement. I wanted to but I had one or two players cry foul "thats not D&D/PF!!!!1!!!11!one!!!" /shrug


Alright I'll check it out even though at the moment, I can't afford an entire adventure path XD dang you rulebooks for being so awesome.

Sovereign Court

Check out the CC forums I reccomend having as much of an AP as possible for anyone running one. I do not find them runnable a book at a time way too much custom work neccesary but that might just be me. Amazon usually has affordable copies for sale.


Yea I prefer to have the whole thing at once.


CC is definitely Cthulhu inspired and it wouldn't be that hard to run it that way. You'll want to flesh out the characters though as most of it is pretty scarce about the people.


I think that the insanity rues are also in the GMG which is online on the PRD.
Also d20pfsrd.com should also have the insanity rules.

Sovereign Court

I will give one warning about the insanity rules though be careful of the random table. There are really cool effects on the table that make for fun gaming. Like multiple-personalities and phobias. Totally fun to play out at the table. Then of course, there is amnesia which pretty much turns your character into a commoner. Seriously, look it up. I have no idea how they put role play effects into a table with a mechanical neutering condition. Something to be mindful of.

Liberty's Edge

Um, tell him you don't want to GM Call of Cthulhu anymore?

Playing isn't just about the players having fun. It is about everyone having fun. If it is not fun for you, it's not worth it.


If he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play. Doesn't get much simpler than that.


A point of suggestion for horror campaigns. Pathfinder and D&D in general is designed around empowerment. You start with something weak and average, and build it into something heroic. Horror games are about dispowerment. The exact opposite. Take a horrifying setting, monsters and terrible, foreign creatures stalking the corridors, and give the players a ghost touch bastard sword and a wand of lightning bolt and it's just an action game. Give them a lantern with a half hour of oil, no dark vision, but no weapons and suddenly they are scared.

If you want to draw in a person who plays campaigns centered around horror and mystery, you have to disempower him a bit and force him to find some way to survive against all odds, not just beat up a few monsters that would be at home in a CoC game.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
SoulDragon298 wrote:

One of my friends I play PF with is a pretty awesome player. He likes to play witty, albeit smarta** characters. However, ever since I introduced him to Call of Cthulhu D20 (which I know is probably gonna be given hate in some replies, as I know it's reputation), he doesn't want to play Pathfinder at all. I'm not good at writing horror campaigns and I prefer PF, so what should I do to convince him to play PF again? I'm thinking about getting Carrion Crown and running that with him or a homebrew PF horror campaign (even though as I said, I can't write horror, plus I'm horrible at dungeon design, treasure hoard design, and encounter design.)

Any help is appreciated.

At some point, you may simply have to respect his life choices.

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