I've never really looked into it but is there anything against taking more than one archetype for a class as long as the abilities they replace don't overlap?
That's the rule...as long as none of them change or replace any of the same class features you can take multiple achetypes
Drakkiel wrote: That's the rule...as long as none of them change or replace any of the same class features you can take multiple achetypes well I'll be, thanks for response ^^
Keep in mind "change" also includes "add to" and "basically the same, but a little different". For example, if an archetype adds to your selection of Bonus Feats, that is considered to be "changing" your Bonus Feats skill so you can't select another archetype that swaps your list for a different list, or adds additional feats of its own. Likewise, "narrowing down" a skill is also a change. Polearm Fighters trade Weapon Training for Polearm Training. They're basically the same, with Polearm Training just being focused on the Polearm group. But you can't select a second archetype that also swaps out Weapon training, even though Polearm training works almost the same and counts as Weapon training for feats, abilities, and items that affect Weapon training.
Can someone take 10 levels in a class with two archetypes - where both archetypes replace the Level 20 ability? (then multiclass into something else)
Arachnofiend wrote: Behold! The list that Paizo probably should have provided us at some point. It's incomplete for many non-core archetypes (like he's missing Buccaneer from the ARG, yet he has Bonded Witch from the same book), plus he's got mistakes... Beast-Bonded and Bonded Witch are completely incompatible. Beast-Bonded enhances your familiar, Bonded Witch replaces your familiar with an arcane bonded item.
Sarrah wrote: Can someone take 10 levels in a class with two archetypes - where both archetypes replace the Level 20 ability? (then multiclass into something else) No.
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Sarrah wrote: Can someone take 10 levels in a class with two archetypes - where both archetypes replace the Level 20 ability? (then multiclass into something else) No, for the following reason:
You aren't waiting until you've gained lvl 20 to "suddenly" gain your lvl 20 ability. You've been training for 19 levels towards it. Even if you don't, ultimately, take that ability, you're still training "towards it" as a de facto standard of the class and archetype. If an archetype replaces your lvl 20 capstone (or even an ability at lvl 11 when you only intend to stop at lvl 10), it is changing the pattern of training for your entire class career with that end goal in mind. Not actually attaining the goal doesn't change that fundamental principal.
The Sin-Eater wrote:
I've never really looked into it but is there anything against taking more than one archetype for a class as long as the abilities they replace don't overlap?
You can do it!
Sarrah wrote: Can someone take 10 levels in a class with two archetypes - where both archetypes replace the Level 20 ability? (then multiclass into something else) You can't take multiples of the same level in the same class, even with different archetypes. OR if you mean that you use them both for 10 levels but that they overlap at the later levels, that you are not going to pick: No.
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Behold! The list that Paizo probably should have provided us at some point. It's incomplete for many non-core archetypes (like he's missing Buccaneer from the ARG, yet he has Bonded Witch from the same book), plus he's got mistakes... Beast-Bonded and Bonded Witch are completely incompatible. Beast-Bonded enhances your familiar, Bonded Witch replaces your familiar with an arcane bonded item. Hey, if you want to put together a more complete list then feel free. I know I'd appreciate it.
Arachnofiend wrote: AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote: Arachnofiend wrote: Behold! The list that Paizo probably should have provided us at some point. It's incomplete for many non-core archetypes (like he's missing Buccaneer from the ARG, yet he has Bonded Witch from the same book), plus he's got mistakes... Beast-Bonded and Bonded Witch are completely incompatible. Beast-Bonded enhances your familiar, Bonded Witch replaces your familiar with an arcane bonded item. Hey, if you want to put together a more complete list then feel free. I know I'd appreciate it. I find the chart on d20pfsrd pretty easy to read, mostly what I noticed about his list though was the mistakes, like the one I gave example of, Beast-Bonded + Bonded-Witch.
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