Seeker level options: High level spells

[Matthew Pittard]

I have been thinking on which character I want to take through the 'retirement arc' and then on to seekerville.

In regards to spell access (and perhaps for those who have gone before) what sorta spell access will I get should I decide to take my Fire Elementalist/Bloatmage to the higher levels? I know Level 7 spells generally are not available re learning spells for PFS but what happens should I get to the level when I can pick two level 7 spells for my book? Do I not get them?

Any advice would be beneficial as the time of no return is quickly approaching.

[Dan Simons]

Please read the Guide to PFS again, this isn't a problem. My 16th level wizard has 8th level spells.

Guide to PFS, page 26 wrote:

Any Seeker with sufficient Fame and experience can purchase scrolls containing 7th-, 8th-, and 9th-level spells, following the price guidelines in the Core Rulebook. Access to these spells is restricted to scrolls and is not available for spell-casting services. Upon reaching 13th level, Seekers are eligible to select spells or purchase 7th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 15th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 8th-level scrolls. Upon reaching 17th level, they are eligible to select spells or purchase 9th-level scrolls.

[Matthew Pittard]

Thanks, I had forgotten the Guide had stuff in there on this. Mainly probably because Ive never read that particular section as Ive never had a character that high before. Thanks! :)

[Mike Tuholski]

Also, you may not be able to buy scrolls of higher level spells but as I understand it, it is fully within the rules to have those spells in your spellbook even below 13th level (you can't cast them yet but they can be there) if you come across them in-game. For example, if you come across an NPC who happens to have those spells in a spellbook or on a scroll, you could copy them into your spellbook and save them for a level when you could actually cast them.

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Also, the new FAQ allowing you to learn spells from nameless NPCs (or Aram Zey's library as I think of it) between scenarios means that you don't have to buy a high level scroll to put it in your spellbook, so could you potentially learn level 7+ spells in your spellbook from Aram Zey's library before you actually reach level 13? That one is a little fuzzier. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to (or why that would be an issue since you can't cast them yet) but I'm a bit confused by this sentence:

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Access to these spells is restricted to scrolls and is not available for spell-casting services.

What do they mean by "access"? Does that mean there are no NPC wizards with level 7+ spells in their book who would be willing to let you copy the spell (for a price)? That's what it sounds like on first pass but I'm not really sure if that is what is intended.

[Matthew Pittard]

Isnt Aram Zey only like level 12 or so? Sooner or later my character is going to bypass him in terms of spell knowledge and ability.

Thus learning from him would be a waste of time :)

[kinevon]

Mike Tuholski wrote:

Also, you may not be able to buy scrolls of higher level spells but as I understand it, it is fully within the rules to have those spells in your spellbook even below 13th level (you can't cast them yet but they can be there) if you come across them in-game. For example, if you come across an NPC who happens to have those spells in a spellbook or on a scroll, you could copy them into your spellbook and save them for a level when you could actually cast them.

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Also, the new FAQ allowing you to learn spells from nameless NPCs (or Aram Zey's library as I think of it) between scenarios means that you don't have to buy a high level scroll to put it in your spellbook, so could you potentially learn level 7+ spells in your spellbook from Aram Zey's library before you actually reach level 13? That one is a little fuzzier. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to (or why that would be an issue since you can't cast them yet) but I'm a bit confused by this sentence:

Quote:

Access to these spells is restricted to scrolls and is not available for spell-casting services.

What do they mean by "access"? Does that mean there are no NPC wizards with level 7+ spells in their book who would be willing to let you copy the spell (for a price)? That's what it sounds like on first pass but I'm not really sure if that is what is intended.

If you run across such a higher level spell in-game, sure, you could copy it to your spellbook.

But, there is no other source, before you reach a levbel where you can cast such a spell, that is available to PCs. No spellcasting survices, escept through one or two such spells listed in the GtPFSOP, no scrolls for sale, and no access to any spellbooks with such high level spells in them.

Spoiler:

I would guess that a certain 7-11 scenario might be the only source for such spells in PFS below Seeker level.

Edit: I would think access to a spell from a spellbook would be considered to fall under spellcasting services, since you have to pay the spellcaster for it, but YMMV.