Dual wielding hand-crossbows in society


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Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

I've been introducing a lot of my friends to PFS and they are having a blast. One of them recently played a lot of Diablo 3 and wanted to make an inquisitor similar to the Demon Hunter. I told him that dual wielding crossbows is near impossible, but he was insistent that we search for a way to do it. I traversed many forums on the topic but they all came to the same conclusion: that it was not able to be done in PFS due to the fact that you need a free hand to re-load your crossbow. We tried to come up with a way for him to do it with weapon cords, quick draw and careful planning, but in the end it just over complicated it and wasn't worth the feat.

That's when I had an idea: The problem is that you need a "Free Hand" to load your crossbows. Is there anyway to grow another arm?

I remember that the alchemist can get Vestigial Arm giving them a "new arm" that can "wield a weapon and make attacks as part of the alchemist’s attack routine (using two-weapon fighting)." I looked it over and saw nothing wrong with this working.

With that, he could take:
Rapid-Reload at 1st
Two-Weapon fighting at 3rd
Vestigial Arm discovery at 3rd

This would allow him to re-load both his hand crossbows as a free action (as he has a free hand to do it with) and fight at a -2/-2 (as they count as light weapons for two-weapon fighting).

Looking at this this seems both doable and society legal. I just wanted to see if I overlooked anything in the rules or I'm misunderstanding how this combo would work.


That's definitely a way to do it.

This type of request should be in the Advice forum, though. Tag it with PFS and they'll be more than happy to help.


Left-field option: CN Inquisitor of Nocticula (CE, favored weapon: hand crossbow).

Cast Spiritual Weapon and you have a second (force) hand crossbow.

Liberty's Edge

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Vestigial Arms does not allow you to make more attacks then you would be able to normally do with just 2 hands, so that would not work.


Also if I remeber correctly, inquisitors gain profiency with reapeating xbows. Late tired on phone...

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

There was a thread about this quite recently in the advice forums - another alternative is the Reloading Hands spell, and potentially, you might be able to use a Tiefling with a prehensile tail (don't know enough about the specifics of this myself).

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

@zefig: Ah, thanks for the tip!

@Dragnmoon: You are normally allowed to make 2 attacks when dual wielding crossbows (the problem is reloading). I don't view this as changing the number of attacks, just allowing you to re-load. If I have 2 loaded crossbows then I can attack with them both in a single round.

@Chris: Hmm, I definitely look into it.


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Be a tiefling with a tail.


It seems to me like these are the same issues that a gunslinger would face. I don't know if this is outside the scope of PFS but as a DM I would personally just let him play a crossbow variant archetype. Grit solves many issues.

Alternatively he can spend a full round action reloading both crossbows; I believe a friend found this somewhere in the rules when he was trying to do something similar.... I don't remember where.

Silver Crusade

Remember that weapon cords are errataed to require a move action now to recover the weapon, not a swift.

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