So I am guessing they are kinda laying the groundwork for the Civil War...with the whole development of Simmons new stance on those with Super Powers.
It will also be interesting to see who Skye's father recruits from the Index to cause some problems.
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?
It has been many, many years since I have read any comic books, so what is S.W.O.R.D.?
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?It has been many, many years since I have read any comic books, so what is S.W.O.R.D.?
Space version of SHIELD. While SHIELD protects earth from well...earth. SWORD protects Earth from everywhere that's not Earth. First line of defense against the alien menace.
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So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?It has been many, many years since I have read any comic books, so what is S.W.O.R.D.?
Going from memory, I think it's Sentient Worlds Observation & Research Division.
It was introduced in Joss Whedon's recent(ish) Astonishing X-Men run, and, upon hearing what S.W.O.R.D. stood for, Beast smiled and said something to the effect of, 'I love you government people and your acronyms.' I think they also showed up in the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon, which was pretty quick turn-around for something that was added to Marvel canon so recently.
yeah...my guess would be that Bobbi/Mack are working with a rival (non-evil) Shield faction, who either don't trust Coulson/Fury, or who have a different focus than Shield, which is largely up to now been focused on fighting Hydra.
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looked at the Bobbi Morse wiki... in the early stories she was in love with Ka-Zar from the Savage Land, and going on missions for Fury...
Maybe Fury needs something from her, but it's a stretch, as he's pretty tight with Coulson.
Now, when are they introduce Savage Land in the MCU? would fit perfectly if they tie Inhumans into it...
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?
NOPE.
Since I'm pretty sure that Joss was the one who created S.W.O.R.D. in the comics...
looked at the Bobbi Morse wiki... in the early stories she was in love with Ka-Zar from the Savage Land, and going on missions for Fury...
She was also a scientist, which seems to have been jettisoned (understandably, as there are already two on the team). I'm not really sure how much of Bobbi's background other than her SHIELD connections they're retaining for this show.
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Did anybody else notice Fitz explicitly using the term Inhuman to describe Sky's condition?
Also, I'm not so sure about Simmons' change of heart about the supernatural. I mean, she seems to be concerned about a potential plague of alien bad stuff, but wasn't she herself the victim of an actually contagious and very dangerous alien substance in season 1? Why did she change her mind now, and not then?
Or perhaps the reason she is thinking that the alien stuff now could be contagious is because of her personal experience? Anyway, I think it was a bit underdeveloped this episode, because there were so many plotlines to follow that each one got little screen time.
I was also very pleased to see Fitz continuing on his path to recovery. Very nice work from the actor portraying the various stages of the mental calamity the character experienced.
I can buy Simmon's change of heart...She had been spending the last few days helping clean up exploded bits of a potential love interest, and practically everything super-powered that has come at the team personally in the last year has been a bad guy, even individuals who didn't start off evil. I think only Dethlok and Sif have ended up as good guys, and even then Dethlok was largely changed against his will and was an enemy for a large chunk of season 1.
What I actually find most interesting is just how radically different the directions Fitz and Simmons are evolving in, and wondering if that is going to play out over the season and next year.
Speaking of Sif, unless they are showing scenes out of order in the previews for next week, it looks like Sif is coming for Skye. I also read interviews about Sif's return to the show, that she will be having memory loss issues, does not remember who Thor is, etc...
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I would have preferred a gradual personality change for Emma. Having negative reaction towards superhumans since the beginning of the show. It just feels kind of forced imo. At the very least if she wanted to contain them. Instead not only those she want to capture them she wants to kill them as well for their own "good". What's next she's going to put Skye out of her misery.
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I'm fine with the sudden shift, memorax. She's definitely not thinking clearly, as she was a lot closer to Trip as she would like to admit. His death is weighing heavily upon her, and she's wanting to lash out at the people she believes is responsible for his death - Raina and Cal. I'm pretty sure the Emma from S1E1 would be horrified to hear her say those things, but I don't think she's ready to start carrying around "Die Mutie Inhuman Scum" signs just yet.
It's going to be bad when she finds out that Skye's not human any longer, but worse when she finds out Fitz covered for her.
So I am the only one thinking of S.W.O.R.D.?
Actually the Skrull are in the shared ownership zone (from what I have read) along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Although I don't think they are Skrull...unless the Skrull are somehow Thano's Minions in the Infinity War. Otherwise, It's a bit too early to really go in that direction.
I think they also showed up in the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon, which was pretty quick turn-around for something that was added to Marvel canon so recently.
They did. The twist on A:EMH was their space station was Kang's abandoned space ship, if I recall correctly.
Actually the Skrull are in the shared ownership zone (from what I have read) along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Although I don't think they are Skrull...unless the Skrull are somehow Thano's Minions in the Infinity War. Otherwise, It's a bit too early to really go in that direction.
The Skrull are in a grey area - they're normally more associated with the Fantastic Four. I can see where Disney/Marvel might steer away from that when they have so many other aliens they can use without a staredown with Fox (Chitauri being the obvious fill-ins, but they have the Kree and Sakarrans and what have you too.)
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I think they also showed up in the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon, which was pretty quick turn-around for something that was added to Marvel canon so recently.They did. The twist on A:EMH was their space station was Kang's abandoned space ship, if I recall correctly.
Not 'abandoned' so much as conquored. (plus, a sword shaped ship named Damocles, that's too good to pass up. I wonder if Agent Brand is in the shared zone?
We have 2 months until Age of Ultron.
Pretty reasonable to guess the 'toybox' stuff and the 'possible alternate SHIELD group or SWORD' are a build-up to events that will be synchronized with the release of the movie, ala the HYDRA stuff that happened around Winter Soldier. Not saying they are the cause or effect of it, but I'm eager to see in what ways they will be influenced by the movie.
Could be that Civil War stuff might get a nudge in that direction, too, especially since the 'massive droid army' going rogue will certainly drive a bigger wedge between Cap and Stark.
Actually the Skrull are in the shared ownership zone (from what I have read) along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Although I don't think they are Skrull...unless the Skrull are somehow Thano's Minions in the Infinity War. Otherwise, It's a bit too early to really go in that direction.
In the ultimate universe the Chitari WERE the Skrulls... the fact that they chose to use them instead of 'skrulls' and didn't have them look or shapechange like Skrulls... PROBABLY means there isn't as much grey area on them :(
Though I do expect the new movie to bomb hard, and then I suspect FF will be the next property to 'come home'.
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Not 'abandoned' so much as conquored. (plus, a sword shaped ship named Damocles, that's too good to pass up.
Especially the way it was portrayed, 'hanging' over the planet, like a very literal 'sword of Damocles.'
I wonder if Agent Brand is in the shared zone?
Since she appeared in the Avengers cartoon, and was only recently (after that appearance) described as a mutant, I imagine she would be. On the other hand, if there's even a chance it could be contestable, they might just use one of the twenty billion other non-X-related characters they've got lying around. :)
Actually the Skrull are in the shared ownership zone (from what I have read) along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Although I don't think they are Skrull...unless the Skrull are somehow Thano's Minions in the Infinity War. Otherwise, It's a bit too early to really go in that direction.
In the ultimate universe the Chitari WERE the Skrulls... the fact that they chose to use them instead of 'skrulls' and didn't have them look or shapechange like Skrulls... PROBABLY means there isn't as much grey area on them :(
Though I do expect the new movie to bomb hard, and then I suspect FF will be the next property to 'come home'.
Joss Whedon said that the reason the Chitauri were used and not the Skrulls is basically the Skrulls were just to difficult to set up in a movie that also had to assemble the Avengers. I mean, the Skrulls, what with their shapeshifting and such, are sort of wasted if all you are going to use them for is faceless canon fodder (Which is what the Chitauri were basically).
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I don't remember Brand being a mutant in the comics (though that may have changed later). I remember her being the daughter of an alien (and because of that, finding Beast incredibly attractive.)
Right, she's not a mutant, but since she's showed up in X-books, I don't know if she's Disney or Fox.
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I'm fine with the sudden shift, memorax. She's definitely not thinking clearly, as she was a lot closer to Trip as she would like to admit. His death is weighing heavily upon her, and she's wanting to lash out at the people she believes is responsible for his death - Raina and Cal. I'm pretty sure the Emma from S1E1 would be horrified to hear her say those things, but I don't think she's ready to start carrying around "DieMutieInhuman Scum" signs just yet.
I still would have preferred a gradual shift. While she is under alot of emptional strain because of Trip death. She also does come off as a hypocrite imo. It's ok when it happens to someone else. When it happens to her then all of sudden it's not. I admit to being somewhat biased as I hated and still hate the clumsy, unrealistic, heavy handed way Marvel still keeps trying to make mutant racism current in their comics.
It's going to be bad when she finds out that Skye's not human any longer, but worse when she finds out Fitz covered for her.
True but something tells me that she might already know that Fitz is covering for Skye. If look at Emma face when he lied for Skye it kind of had a strange look to it imo.
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Actually the Skrull are in the shared ownership zone (from what I have read) along with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
Although I don't think they are Skrull...unless the Skrull are somehow Thano's Minions in the Infinity War. Otherwise, It's a bit too early to really go in that direction.
In the ultimate universe the Chitari WERE the Skrulls... the fact that they chose to use them instead of 'skrulls' and didn't have them look or shapechange like Skrulls... PROBABLY means there isn't as much grey area on them :(
Though I do expect the new movie to bomb hard, and then I suspect FF will be the next property to 'come home'.
Why would the next movie bomb hard? last one was pretty successful.
Don't know if FF will bomb or not, however the people behind it have made it pretty clear they are doing everything possible to NOT make a Fantastic Four movie.
It's this whole "edgey realism" kick hollywood seems to want to force on the Superhero films. They think they know better on how to make a Superhero film successful because they "know what audiences want"
I almost think here is a part of hollywood that really hates that Marvel has been such a success with it's films, that they feel Marvel is doing it wrong so they have to show people how to do it "right"
so everything gets filmed in dark blues, greys and browns and all the characters become angst driven broken people. Because being a superhero should be a miserable experience filled with hardship and despair
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I don't remember Brand being a mutant in the comics (though that may have changed later). I remember her being the daughter of an alien (and because of that, finding Beast incredibly attractive.)Right, she's not a mutant, but since she's showed up in X-books, I don't know if she's Disney or Fox.
Actually she is a mutant. Her abilities come, from her own words, from her half human side not her half alien side.
Fantastic Four? It's gonna bomb so hard it's gonna leave a crater. Because there is no feasible way it's going to be good. There just isn't.
It is perfectly possible for a movie to suck and still make a huge pile of money.
Fantastic Four? It's gonna bomb so hard it's gonna leave a crater. Because there is no feasible way it's going to be good. There just isn't.It is perfectly possible for a movie to suck and still make a huge pile of money.
Still a better love story then TWILIGHT.
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Fantastic Four? It's gonna bomb so hard it's gonna leave a crater. Because there is no feasible way it's going to be good. There just isn't.It is perfectly possible for a movie to suck and still make a huge pile of money.
I never gauged a movie's quality and success by how much money it makes at the box office.
I never gauged a movie's quality and success by how much money it makes at the box office.Fantastic Four? It's gonna bomb so hard it's gonna leave a crater. Because there is no feasible way it's going to be good. There just isn't.It is perfectly possible for a movie to suck and still make a huge pile of money.
But studios do, and FF bombing was brought up in the context of Marvel/Disney getting the rights back from Fox.
It doesn't matter if the movie sucks, it matters if it profitable enough for Fox to keep the rights. Unless it loses a substantial amount of money, Fox will probably rather keep the rights.
SWORD is probably gonna get used.Has S.W.O.R.D. every been useful in the comics? Every time I see them I get a brief view of a SWORD base which promptly gets trashed by the aliens they're supposed to be guarding Earth from.
I think SWORD is pretty much a joke... Yeah, they usually have a ship or two... or a station... but when the aliens attack, they come with invasions...
Getting that job must be a suicide mission!
Meh. How many times has the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier been shot down? The effectiveness of S.W.O.R.D. in the MCU, should it ever appear, will be dependent on the needs of the story.
Which probably does mean they'll get blown up or otherwise defeated, because otherwise why would you need costumed heroes?
Meh. How many times has the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier been shot down? The effectiveness of S.W.O.R.D. in the MCU, should it ever appear, will be dependent on the needs of the story.
Which probably does mean they'll get blown up or otherwise defeated, because otherwise why would you need costumed heroes?
Honestly, it's one of the things that astounds me a bit about this show and Coulson... It's actually made me care about 'SHIELD' agents?!?
In the old days, Fury was the only one of any real note, occasionly Sharon Carter... and then hordes of cannon fodder for Captain America to step over their corpses just to show how much the enemy was a threat....
In the old TSR Game it's why I removed SHIELD as an organization and replaced them with GIJoe... same principle of highly trained 'best of the best' spy squad... but without the cannon fodder feel. :P
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Meh. How many times has the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier been shot down? The effectiveness of S.W.O.R.D. in the MCU, should it ever appear, will be dependent on the needs of the story.
Which probably does mean they'll get blown up or otherwise defeated, because otherwise why would you need costumed heroes?
Pretty much. Attilan has been around for 7000 years, without incident. By the time it appears in the comics, with Black Bolt in charge, it's had to be moved *three times* and been blown up twice, which makes Black Bolt seem like the absolute *worst* ruler of the Inhumans, in the history of *ever.* (The place had better luck under Maximus the Mad, who was, literally, insane!)
Ditto Wakanda and T'challa, Atlantis and Namor (or Orin, at that other company), Asgard and Thor (Odin kept that place *pristine* for *millennia,* and you take over and bang, the whole continent is destroyed and what's left is in Oklahoma? Can Kings of Asgard be impeached?), literally *anywhere* that a Magneto, a Morlock or any other marvel mutants lives with at least one other mutant for more than a three consecutive nights, etc., etc.
No organization, nation, etc., even if it's introduced as having been spectacularly successful for *millennia,* is going to last more than a few years once it appears in a comic book before getting blowed up / proven to be suddenly useless.
I blame it on Krypton.
At least Doom seems to be doing his job, because you don't read about that crap happening to Latveria every other year.
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No organization, nation, etc., even if it's introduced as having been spectacularly successful for *millennia,* is going to last more than a few years once it appears in a comic book before getting blowed up / proven to be suddenly useless.
I blame it on Krypton.
It's a very old trope, and not limited to (or originating with) comics. Think about all the old movies where some hidden valley/plateau is found in modern times with living dinosaurs and "cavemen". By the end of the movie, a volcano, earthquake or other massive natural disaster that had waited millions of years to happen, suddenly hits within hours or days of our heroes' arrival.
Great episode, can't wait to find out who Bobbi and Mack are really working for and what they are up too. I also can't wait for Skye to learn how to control her powers.
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Neat...
My vote is S.W.O.R.D.
I'm glad that Fitz was helping Skye. Everyone's been down on him since his brain damage issue, but I think that has actually made him a better spy, since he's now more convincing when he lies.
Loved seeing a Kree, and hearing the background story for the Inhumans.
Great episode, can't wait to find out who Bobbi and Mack are really working for and what they are up too. I also can't wait for Skye to learn how to control her powers.
It looks like, in the next episode, she is going to need them.