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Unfortunately bards get crap money, For me to help in combat I need a bow and studded leather.
I could just get a shortbow for now though I suppose and save myself some money. I'd do less damage but I don't think that'd be much of a problem.
If I did that that would free up 45 gp. I could buy the Camping kit and a musk ox as well as a fishing net and a few more rations and two water skins.
(Camping Kit is 12 gp, Rations are 2 for 1 gp, Musk Ox is 24 gp (And emergency rations!), waterskin is 1 gp x 2, and fishing net is 4gp.)
That'd let me start with 8 rations, 2 waterskin, a camping kit for 4 (If the GM allows, perhaps we could get a fifth person's for 3 more GP when we get together?)
I'd allow it.
Unfortunately bards get crap money, For me to help in combat I need a bow and studded leather.
Yeah, oracles get the same. I dumped DEX so most of my cash went to armor.
GM: how do you feel about the "Asian" armors? I could live with four-mirror armor for now if that is available.
Link it and have a good reason why your character might have it and I'll consider it. :D
I'm also thinking of some way to motivate or add a "time-table" to the adventure (threats against the outpost or rewards from Brevoy for quicker successes.
@Peet,
Four Mirror armor seems to pull the same weight as chainmail for a third of the price. So I would like the reason you wear it to be additive to the story why you'd have it and not just a loophole for starting cash. :D
Tying it to a trait you have or couching it in your backstory may be sufficient if done well.
My working idea thus far for motivating speed of exploration is that the stolen lands are dotted with ruins of previous attempts at colonization. Tiles can take as long as 4-5 days to explore, but if they are explored quickly the incentive is that Brevoy surveyors will assay the land for useful building materials.
Every day saved exploring will mean more time for the surveyors to operate behind the adventurers (when it's safest) deducting one day (or more) off of the construction of buildings later in the campaign. For example, if a hex could take as long as 5 days to explore, but you get it done in 1 day, that's 4-5 days of saved time on a construction later in the game.
I may add protecting the surveyors as an additional liability for the players, but only if it's addative and not subtractive to the game.
So if you want to build a castle in 1 month instead of 4 months, banking that surveyor time can add up to some great motivation to keep a steady pace!
Four-mirror armor costs 125 gp (post-errata of UE) and weighs 45 lbs. Chainmail costs 150 gp and weighs 40 lbs. The two are separate armors and do not stack for AC.
Hey guys! Just double checking if you're seeing my messages here.
seen!
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Gold left: 13.7
Daggers (5, two in spring loaded wrist sheathes, one hidden in boot, one hidden on lowerback, one on belt and made of cold iron)
Light Mace
Sap
Studded Leather 3/5/-1
Spring Loaded Wrist Sheath (2)
Compass
Hammock
Bedroll
Mwk Backpack
Waterskin (2)
Glass Bottle
Candles (10)
Adventurer's Outfit
Trail Rations (10)
Flint and Steel
Rope (50ft)
Grappling Hook
Ryker Grimes is a 34 year old half-elf who has lived most of his life in the hinterlands of New Stetven. Between hunting, performing odd jobs, and his wife's work, they were always able to provide for their two children.
Unfortunately, when higher taxes were levied on their village, times grew harsh for Ryker and his family. Game and general work grew scarce as other villagers diversified and held their own money closer to their chest. A couple of years passed and the Grimes family found themselves unable to pay for their home and forced to move into the slums of New Stetven proper. Unwilling to fall in with the local lowlifes to make a living and unsuccessful in finding honest work for himself, Ryker made the difficult choice to leave his family for the Stolen Lands.
Ryker's trying times had yet to cease, however. Opportunity and wealth are fleeting in the Stolen Lands, and he soon found himself waylaying travelers, merchants, even bandits. He quickly became the lowlife that he looked down upon in New Stetven, but he has been able to send decent sums of gold to his family monthly and for that, he can stomach the shame and his pride.
Eager to move beyond his current station in life, Ryker dreams about a time when he can live with his family again and support them with honest work. He enjoys the outdoors and dabbles in learning foreign languages.
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As a story element, how do you feel about being a known enemy of the bandits in the region? having ambushed bandits before.
Would I then also know a little bit about the bandits in the area? Regardless, I think that'd be pretty sweet :)
This is the alias btw, character sheet should be complete.
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Yes you would, you might even be a rival story-wise that they have an axe to grind with. :D
@Peet,
Four Mirror armor seems to pull the same weight as chainmail for a third of the price. So I would like the reason you wear it to be additive to the story why you'd have it and not just a loophole for starting cash. :D
This is why I asked.
Azul is a worshiper of Irori and spent most of his life in Axis. Possibly he encountered souls from Tian there. I don't care to expand his background more than that to include a trip to Tian Xia.
I don't have a lot of patience for people who say "Half-orcs and elves and dwarves are cool, but Asians are just too weird." Strictly speaking there should be a whole catalog of cultural variant equipment for each race, but that is handwaved by the game.
But a lot of the Asian items from Ultimate Combat are a little too good. Four-mirror armor is not as good as chainmail, because it is a bit bulkier (5 lbs heavier, other stats are the same), but I don't think the 105 gp savings is justified. In PFS I vaguely recall that they changed the price to 125 gp, though I can't find the reference.
Found it! Price was updated in Ultimate Combat but not Ultimate Equipment for some reason.
How do you feel about the 125 gp price tag?
It's not a question of strangeness, it's a question of geography. Tian Xia is far away from Brevoy so I'd want there to be some context for it.
I hope you'll have patience for me when I ask questions and want to flesh things out, for me it's very important as a GM that I share a players vision, so over the course of the story we can both see the same character.
125 price tag is fine.
Would it be possible to open the gameplay thread for ninja dots so this thread can be added to my campaign tab?
The GM for this thread is Artemis P. -- maybe we should invent a new thread and start from scratch?
Also... is anybody interested in having the hex map revealed via a "fog of war" effect on rolld20.net?
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/3317861/kingmaker-map
If anybody is willing, can they see if they can visit this site and see the map? I think it would be really cool if we had the map from the adventure path freely available to everyone to see just how much has been explored. I took the liberty of revealing the top row of hexes and a small area new the outpost where the adventure starts.
If people don't want to use the map via rolld20.net do we have a better idea? :D
I just today got the game from the old DM it only took about a week. You can send and email to customer service about taking over the game. They will transfer the game to you.
or
you could just start a new thread for yourself.
I like d20 for maps but I can not see the thread as I am not invited to the game.
Was Artemis P.! It is now Jovich's game technically.
When I try the link and log in, it says I am not authorized to view the map. I think fog of war would be cool!
EDIT: You dare ninja me? EN GARDE!
PM me email address, and I will invite you to view the map!
I'm fine with using this thread without "taking it over" I just hope it doesn't cause problems later down the road.
I'll see about opening up the gameplay thread...
how can I open the game thread?
Check your PM's VIcon!
IIRC, if you click on the tab for gameplay, you should (as the "GM") have the option to open the thread.
I've moved the game to this thread and opened the gameplay tab. The adventure teaser is posted both in the campaign background and the first post in gameplay.
http://paizo.com/campaigns/ViconAndFriendsKINGMAKERCAMPAIGN#newPost
Hope to see you all there!
I will check my PMs and invite the people who send me addresses to view the map -- if you can see it correctly, let me know because I'm really psyched about this feature!
There is a problem...I am not seeing anything that will let me adjust the game thread. I can unset the discussion or recruitment but not the game thread. It also is sending me to another link when I try to post something in the game thread.
Okay! I sent two invites to view the map already, let me know if you can see it!
Try the new link/thread:
http://paizo.com/campaigns/ViconAndFriendsKINGMAKERCAMPAIGN#newPost
and let me know if things are working there.
And thanks for the encouragement and praise I've received already -- nobody is kidding when I say this is one of the things that keeps me going and I hope this campaign truly succeeds, well beyond the first chapter/adventure alone!
I see the map
YAY!
I hope it will be fun using it!
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I will move the old thread to inactive once we get everyone over to the new thread.