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Game Master brvheart

Actually Aggramar gives a competence bonus to attack and damage (like Bards).

Welcome to the team Darrien/rorek

Inspire Courage----- "An affected ally receives a +1 morale bonus on saving throws against charm and fear effects and a +1 competence bonus on attack and weapon damage rolls. At 5th level, and every six bard levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +1, to a maximum of +4 at 17th level "

So...Your competence bonuses will stack with the morale bonuses to attack and dam coming from Aggrammar. The problem is that the bonus stays at +1 till 20th lvl. It also remains a Standard action and never progresses to a move or swift action like a bard or Evangelist-Cleric.

If we have time to buff it is worth activating if you have no other actions you want to take. But +1 at upper levels doesn't mean that much.

And as you are one of our frontliners in encounters at upper levels without buff time it'll probably be better for you to engage in combat rather than activating it as a Standard action.

As to the Chosen one archetype...It gives up Divine Bond for the familiar. The Bond will add to your Holy Shield ability. Having your familiar able to Lay on Paws is kinda cool but it takes 2 uses of LOH so its something you only want to do only when absolutely necessary.
I'm sure our glass cannon would not mind having your familiar buzzing about him acting as an emergency medic.

The issue with Divine Bond is that it takes a standard action. Lay on Paws is inefficient use of LoH but it is an extra set of actions that does not keep you from being engaged in combat.

I just thought of an interesting question...

See: Emissary's Smite from the Chosen One archetype (Su)

"At 11th level, a chosen one's familiar also benefits from the paladin's smite evil ability whenever the chosen one uses smite evil."

If your familiar also benefits from smite, would that also apply to Bastion of Good from the Sacred Shield archetype?

and if so

would the Bastion of Good ability

A)protect the familiar by giving it 1/2 damage?

or

B)have the familiar act as the Paladin by providing a 10ft area around itself where allies take 1/2 damage. and so we would have 2 bubbles of 1/2 damage whenever Bastion is activated?

@drbuzzard/Lars- I don't know why I forgot Inspire courage is 2 different bonus types: morale for fear save and competence to attack/damage.

I think back in 3.0 it was all morale, but they decided to switch it to stack with bless (morale).

I'll leave the familiar/bastion of good combo for brvheart, but I would say it doesn't work because of this clause:" A character can take more than one archetype and garner additional alternate class features, but none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature."

And I only look like a glass cannon... I promise to look less fragile, and stop coming up to kill stuff once we get beyond the rats/kobolds/gnolls/etc. I mean, I've only lost 1 hp and 1 Dex so far, lol.

Now those gnolls were tough and you were hanging in there with the best of them!
I kinda prefer one archetype per class.

So last we left you were still battling some centipedes. Did you want to back out of that encounter, have them join you in it or finish it quickly? You are near the entrance at least so getting them in should be fairly easy. Now are two adventuring as a pair or just the surviving members of another party?

Yeah, I was looking at that, having a familiar benefit from smite, with bastion, would mean that I would also recieve 1/2 damage, as long as our area of effects overlap. I probably won't/wouldnt take it, just a thought.

Also, shields can be wielded two handed, (for 1/3 ratio), and yes, the morale bonus stays the same, but it also does other, fairly nifty things, imagine at 12th, you get hit with a crit, but that 25% fortification stops it. ;)

Darrien would be just getting there, no party before hand

No, why you are here, where you are at, etc? At minimum you would be coming in with Nuala. Let's let her chime in here and the existing players also as to what they wish to do with the existing encounter. Right now you would be coming in about 40' from the party. The link to Roll20 is above as well as the maps. Your character icons are created.

It matters not to me when we enter.. Ive never used roll20 before so it might take me a sec..

The link for it says not authorized..

I vote going back up (to deposit Koan and Thomas) and maybe work on getting this poison taken care of.

But then again, I am the only one poisoned, so kinda biased there, lol.

Ok try this link

Almon you need to make another DC 12 Fort Save. The cure is one save. If not it goes on for six rounds til you save. It will have run its course long before you get very far.

I say we mow down tha centipedes lads!!

Good Thomas is not gonna simply vanish into thin air, right? :)

That would give a good way for Darrien to make an appearance and show his stuff.

Also, if it's and condolence, darrien can halt a posion for 1 hour per lay on hands. I can't remove it until 9th level, but it still says it stops it for an hour even if I don't remove it.

Also, as I've told the DM, my laptop screen got cracked to the point I can't use it when I moved, so roll20 availability will be, scarce, for me to say the least. My apologies.

And nuala, it may be because you need to create a user account first, (no charge, and it's easy) but otherwise the link is trying to take you somewhere you don't have access to so it won't work

Ok Almon, I can't find where you were poisoned now. Thought it was the centipedes.

"Hitting Almon for 1 point and 1 point of Dex before he can retreat from the room. Lars is up followed by Sorek then top of Round 4."

It was the last attack round for the centipedes. So I'll have to do the save on the next round.

I thought you had done a private roll or something for the fort save because you said I took the Dex damage, but no fort save is shown which might be where the confusion is.

"And I only look like a glass cannon... I promise to look less fragile, and stop coming up to kill stuff once we get beyond the rats/kobolds/gnolls/etc. I mean, I've only lost 1 hp and 1 Dex so far, lol."------Almon

nothing but love for our glass cannon lol...
just thinking of ways to help make those 15hps last.

Yep, the Roll20 Site Link keeps on not working for me also. Only the ones posted by brvheart.

Yea its still not working for me either.. Now it goes to the site but the page is just black. Ive always used google maps so maybe im doing it wrong..

There is a zoom slider in the upper right corner of the map. . Zoom all the way out and you'll see a tiny part of the screen that's not black. . Center that and zoom in

i just logged on and checked to make sure i am giving the right advice.

yep... zoom out and then scroll down and you will see the map

Ok i got it now! Thanks.. So are we in combat or just arriving or?

Ok, I am going to have combat over now. This is taking longer than it should for one centipede! XP for the 4 of you=150. You and the paladin will be arriving in Room 1 just as Good Thomas and Koan are leaving.

Just as an FYI, RA is counting on you having certain common and usual spells and abilities for your level. So archetypes are fine, just don't stray too far from the core or it may come back to byte you!

" Please start making rolls in the future?"

Is this referring to Sorek Detecting Magic? If so, when Sorek is Detecting he really is just focusing on the 1rst round ability: Presence or absence of magical auras.

Sorek has very little in the way of Spellcraft or Knowledge skill and will need to leave the identification of Auras and Properties to Almon once he has detected them.

If you want me to make rolls for that I can but I'll always end up failing the roll.

Your party has now explored about half of level one. The level is largely meant for level 1-2 characters so the rest of the encounters are not going to get any tougher. Or you can descend down to level two where it is a little more level appropriate. Timewise you have about an hour before your casters are going to need to rest.

We could rest in the room with the bunks. And then go down to the 2nd lvl. Unless we want to spend more time squishing rats and centipedes ;)

Think resting in a bed has appeal. Then we can go deeper.

I'm a sucker for exploring every nook and cranny, but sure, let us rest and then head down below.

If you were levels 1 or 2 I would say there are a few rooms left that are worth getting to as they are kinda neat, but probably not worth 1-2 weeks of real time. The next two levels are more challenging. Room 9 I think was designed for parties to rest in. You going to set watches or use the rope trick? The beds are more comfortable than the floor.

This level is how do I say, a tad more complicated and most of it will require more party involvement room by room. Sorek can still do a little exploring but nowhere near as much.

on my phone so can't see the map. . Is there anywhere else to explore in this section or do we need to go back to the fire room and go east from there?

so who wants a +1 Longsword?

did Sorek kill the shadow before Almon used his magic missile scroll?

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You are going to need to back to fire room and the bridge does not extend to the east as you pressed the button on the south wall. Can't splice time that precisely, everything is generally happening at the same time. Scroll is cast.

If we can't go east in the fire room by pressing the east button then we will have to go back to room 1 and go north from there

How are you going to press the button?

Far hand/mage hand like before when we first entered the fire room. range 30 ft

ok. the bridge extents from the east door to the middle. On that note I am off to bed. Four combats today.

OK guys, no more little league soccer rules. Alternate death rules are hereby rescinded. Characters die, get over it. I am trying too hard not to kill characters. Interview will Bill Webb

FYI, this is why I don't allow taking 10 or 20. Per Skeeter Green FGG Pathfinder Guru, especially on Rappan Athuk:

Depends on the interpretation of the trap. You can't take 10 or 20 when "threatened". So, say for example, a pit trap is in front of you when you're walking, it's "threatening" to go off if you step on it. No 10 or 20 there.

Many, many other examples, but the bottom line is if you have a pushover DM, you can take all kind of advantages.

And brvheart is right; there should be plenty of wandering monsters and other encounters to liven up the show while you're "checking" everything.

Chaoseffect: what if you have to run from a monster? And run headlong into a trap? Trap Spotter would still give that rogue a chance to notice the scythe-blade trap before the fighter loses his head...

Yea I have no issues with not taking 10/20 on traps.. By raw u cant even do that. Now for picking locks/doors and such i feel you should be able to because there is no neg for failure. As far as taking time i agree on take 20, but taking 10 is essentially just rolling. It takes no longer.

Things I allow taking 10 on in my games:

Iding monsters
Iding spells as there cast
Other Knowledge checks
Disable device checks on none trap items

Guys, I like Wabbithuntr and he is a valuable asset at keeping the game moving, but what do the rest of you do when he is not available for that, like when he is asleep for a day? That is why I wanted more than one person involved. It was not to knock him just get more people in the game:)

Hello everyone... I will be out of town on vacation from tuesday thru sunday. I will have internet access and will be checking in here, but I do not know how much I will be contributing. Please gmpc me if needed.

I hope to check in and see a lively vibrant game.

WabbitHuntr aka Sorek

well, to be honest, I had planned on being a "detect evil" beacon, with humorous commentary on the side when not fighting. IIRC this guy has an Int of 08

Ok, time for me to make wandering monster checks.

So what are we doing guys?

Ive been really busy the last few days.. Sry.. RL has crept up on me. Post inc..

Understand. RL does that sometimes for all of us. Glad you are still with us:)

I'm running like a bard apparently.