Misforstått |
"Misbegotten Misforstått is checking in as ordered."
Player Name: R. Diaz
PFS Number: 60243-24
Faction: Silver Crusade
Day Job: None
Aryn Seavon |
Player Name: StephNyan
PFS Number: 115025-5
Faction: Silver Crusade
Day Job: Diplomacy (Caravan vanity): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21
Murchadh Mageevor |
Have made another character according to PFS (not CORE) rules. Will be playing him, not me.
Tomas Kellner #177526-2
Revvy Bitterleaf |
@Murchadhl if you could make an alias for Tomas and post with that and add a line like the other players have with hp/ac/cmd/saves/perception /init etc. in the part on the left where it says race,gender it would make thing a lot easier for me to quickly looks up some stats during posting.
Take a look at one of the other players profiles (like Aryn) to see what they did (by clicking on their name) for an example.
Just to do math:
Tomas - fighter 1
Aryn - Bloodrager 2/Oracle 1
Onix - Monk 3
Misforstatt - Alchemist 2
Caswallon - gunslinger 1
? from O-Kage - 2?
1+3+3+2+1+2=12/6= 2. Tier 1-2, no adjustments
Tomas Kellner |
Revvy,
I'm not familiar with which stats are necessary (people seem to list different sets). I'll copy Aryn, as you suggest.
Thanks.
Revvy Bitterleaf |
It varies by personal preference and what previous GM's have asked for.
What matters to me (and most other GM's) are your hps current/total, AC (touch, flatfooted) , CMD , saves, initiative and perception since those are the one that will get checked pretty much every combat and it saves a lot of time if you don't have to switch between tabs to see if I hit you
PFS number isn't needed in the status bar, just noticed Aryn has it in there
Revvy Bitterleaf |
Does Tomas' Scimitar gain any bonus for being the favoured weapon of his Deity?
Sure I read it somewhere in the book but can't track it down (not even with his survival skill) - badoom! My first pathfinder themed joke (-5, joke backfires).
No, the only time that would be a "bonus" is when you are a cleric, in which case you would get to be trained in the use in that weapon.
Or when you are a warpriest, then you get a whole bunch of stuff.
But for being a fighter, wielding the chosen weapon of your god doesn't do anything mechanicaly different from wielding any other weapon. Might be nice RP, but that's about it.
Onix |
So Tomas, on these boards we roll dice with the board's dice roller.
To roll dice you type bracket, the word dice, bracket followed by the dice type and the modifier followed by bracket / dice and bracket again.
Example: Just don't add the star and it will roll for you.
[dice*]1d20 + 10[/dice]
mderm |
Hi,
Yes, I'd looked there but failed to notice it. Same with the PBP formatting guide. Must have had a mind blank.
When I tried to write something like
[dice*=Skill]1d20 + 2 => (10) + 2 = 12[/dice]
It showed up as
Skill: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 2 = 1710 + 212 = 222
... which stumped me. Clearly the board software filters expressions, expands macros. Didn't think it was as simple as the literal expression, so I stuck with at least the result.
Good to know.
Thanks guys.
Tomas Kellner |
Misforstatt, I understand you're questioning Halvor's tactical insight. I'm saying you probably shouldn't do anything to antagonise him while we're outnumbered and surrounded. He might be a liar and a fool but he's a liar and a fool who has power of life and death over us at this point.
He has given us the choice to join his raiding party.
"if you want to fight at the side of justice you can join us and we extract our revenge"
He's also allowed us to decline. It seems Whiterook is attacking Dalun whether we like it or not. Regarding Geography, Saarbotten is much further away and downstream of Whiterook. Dalun is as close to Whiterook as it is to Nardak's Point - 'as the crow flies'.
Totally agree with your points about trading and war. However, our orders might be based on faulty intelligence. If Dalun lures people in with false promises (as Halvor claims he was), that might be happening to us.
I think the current goal of this mission is thus: make an alliance with Whiterook; combine forces and purge Dalun of evil influences; set up trade and alliances in Irrisen. If Halvor is telling the truth about his encounters, we five don't stand much chance against what he fought. The best chance is to combine forces and defeat what lies ahead. Then, it will be much easier to forge ahead and recover a piece of the Star Key.
Tomas Kellner |
@Pathfinders: I don't know what other people think. I'm not 100% convinced my theory on the current goal is correct. Rather than decide openly, in front of Halvor, perhaps we should ask him if we can have a moment in privacy to confer amongst ourselves - so we can all voice our concerns and decide what we do? Maybe Halvor will grant us temporary shelter for this
Misforstått |
Misforstatt, I understand you're questioning Halvor's tactical insight. I'm saying you probably shouldn't do anything to antagonise him while we're outnumbered and surrounded. He might be a liar and a fool but he's a liar and a fool who has power of life and death over us at this point.
I'm not antagonizing him. :-) I'm not sure where you get that impression. None of us has made a social check--such as sense motive. How would your character know how Halvor feels?
Out of character, I get that you are concerned. Going forward, I'll try to consult the party more. But: (1) the Ulfen at the river were reluctant to draw arms, (2) they've been very open with us about what happened and what their goals are. Why shouldn't we speak to them openly and plainly?
However, our orders might be based on faulty intelligence.
They're not. :-) And I don't know why a 1st or 2nd level character would question his 7th level venture captain. (Calisro Benarry is a Rogue 4 / Fighter 3 and the head of a lodge.)
I think the current goal of this mission is thus: make an alliance with Whiterook; combine forces and purge Dalun of evil influences; set up trade and alliances in Irrisen. If Halvor is telling the truth about his encounters, we five don't stand much chance against what he fought. The best chance is to combine forces and defeat what lies ahead. Then, it will be much easier to forge ahead and recover a piece of the Star Key.
I disagree. The goal of the mission was explicitly stated in the mission briefing in post #1.
Do what you want. :-) I'm going to oppose the attack on Dalun. In character, this is my faction goal.
Have you had the chance to check out faction journal cards, yet? If not, please look at the Silver Crusade goals and you'll see why I have to act this way, in character.
mderm |
Misforstatt,
How do you know our orders aren't based on faulty intelligence? If you know that because of an earlier skill check, could you find a way to share that with Tomas in the Gameplay thread?
Tomas will question - at least in private - the quality of any character's information, whatever their level, if he doesn't know it's based on good evidence.
Tomas will stick with the party, whatever their decision.
I don't think him splitting off on his own to join the raiders would be a sensible option: not unless he wants to get shot in the back by Caswallon.
Misforstått |
That's not the pathfinder way. I'm a second level character, why in the world would I question my captain? We belong to an organization with a hierarchy. If every pathfinder spent every mission questioning our orders, we wouldn't get anything done.
Caswallon cannot shoot you. PFS doesn't allow player vs. player combat. :-) We are invulnerable to each other except in very special circumstances.
Like I said, do what you wish. I'm going to oppose war. :-)
Psyblade |
Just a heads up, I am not allowed to go kill player chars and nor will I ever do such a thing (unless you get mind controlled and decided that I am better of dead... :P )
Overall, Caswallon is pretty on guard and ready to react to what is going on. The mission is straight forward, go to point A, retrieve object, GTFO and report for mission well done.
Keep in mind this can be done in various ways as already been offered now (use the trade papers, join the ulfen in war and then sneak away etc.)
Overall, this party doesn't have a clear leader as it stands now so we are just fragmented (so to speak) and all go about this how we think is the best, unless someone steps up as a possible leader :)
As it stands right now, just relax and I am sure we will have a rp moment where we can discuss our strategy :)
mderm |
Misforstatt,
"Have you had the chance to check out faction journal cards, yet? If not, please look at the Silver Crusade goals and you'll see why I have to act this way, in character."
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I've downloaded and glanced at them. I'll read them properly so I have more insight into where a Silver Crusade character comes from.
I'm totally new to this game and am still trying to get a sense of how narratives develop and how the game mechanics connect with that.
Tomas wasn't saying you 'were antagonizing' Halvor. He was just wary Misforstatt might. A powerful character in his own territory has to command a level of respect - a certain amount of deference - according to his position. It might be considered impertinent for a stranger to suggest he must back up his claims with evidence.
About the Ulfen, they were reluctant to draw arms but we were their prisoners. The message was clear: 'follow us or fight us'. The party was compelled by threat of violence.
I would agree they seem friendly. They have spoken open and plainly. However, that could as easily be a ruse to gain what they want from us: arms and men. They can't compel the party to willingly fight: if the party doesn't, though: they would no longer have any use for the pathfinders. They might still be planning not to let the Pathfinders continue.
As I said, I'm new, so I don't know if the 'Sense Motive' test holds good for the duration of our interactions with Whiterook or just that encounter by the river.
Misforstått |
*Shrug* It's your prerogative to be suspicious / concerned / whatever. I don't think I'm antagonizing anyone. :-) I don't think our intel is faulty.
Caswallon's advice is really good: relax and let the scenario happen. :-D
mderm |
"Just a heads up, I am not allowed to go kill player chars and nor will I ever do such a thing"
:)
Okay, that is very good to know and will make calculating decisions a lot easier. Caswallon make Tomas a bit edgy. She seems very keen to get in to a shoot-out as soon as the odds work for her.
If the mission is just a 'fetch-and-return' that also makes things easier.
It just occurs to me that 'opposing war' as Misforstatt will do, might be as advantageous. The party could make camp and wait to see who wins.
Or, it could follow the raiders at a distance and watch as it happens: far enough not to cop any flac, close enough to call for help if it runs in to trouble. Or, even, come to the aid of the side "with God on their side" as the propaganda goes.
Misforstått |
Caswallon is great! Really enjoying your RP of that character.
I have a gunslinger (not myst stranger) who is first level. I'm thinking of making him a paranoid "conspiracy theorist" kind of guy. :-D
Misforstått |
No worries. I loved the Minion reference! It made me smile. :-D
I'm just RP'ing a character. I, the player, can tone down my character if it's not a good fit for the party. I have no problems with that. :-)
Let's compromise: I'll tone down my alchemist, and perhaps you guys could be a little less paranoid and mistrusting of NPCs?
Aryn Seavon |
Nice job with Halvor! :-)
I'm not sure we want to intimidate the people in Dalun that we're supposed to trade with, though...
I agree it's best to not intimidate the people in Dalun. We were even warned to not poke sleeping ice bears in the eye. It's certainly best to have the people cooperate! :)
Though we should keep in mind the supplies and letter of trade are just what we use to get to the Sky Piece. Trade's not our main objective.
mderm |
"Though we should keep in mind the supplies and letter of trade are just what we use to get to the Sky Piece. Trade's not our main objective.
I agree. I think trade is incidental; mostly a cover story.
I think the Venture-Captain's brief said we need permission to go past Dalun to Nardak's point. Dalun is a 'stop' not the 'destination'.