Lords of Creation

Game Master stringburka

Deities creating a new world where the old was destroyed.


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Just to note, Yidhra's followers are not super awesome... except maybe at making incomprehensible zen riddles. XD


It's Week 5! Roll-over happens and AP for everybody.

As for the recruitment topic, more players would be lively. I'll leave it up to Ilja, but I think it's okay to simply bump the recruitment thread.


More people would be beneficial I think. There's quite little happening, and personally I'm a bit too tired in my head to come up with anything interesting plots to develop, which is why I'm laying low right now. In a game like this I feel one of the biggest benefits is that it's okay if some people are very active and some people less so and some people alternating.

Though we're going to have to be careful about who we approve, of course, not to upset what we have going on.

So my vote would be on bumping the recruitment thread.

Shadow Lodge

I do agree on the need of a rigid selection. but still I believe we shoul try o recruit.
we have no obligation to accept the first on who posts on the recruitment.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

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Suppose we commit to only approving applications we are impressed with, and a new player requires 2-3 approvals. That way multiple people have to be stricken with a new player's idea.

Another good option (thought we can do both)is for each person to recommend one player. So we are looking specifically for players that we already know will be fun or challenging.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

I just have a quick question regarding how my past actions would count for the 7AP needed to gain domains,

Could I count the 4 for making leviathans as a Monster domain, and the 5 for raising Asildon as a guardian of the sea count toward Protection?


Sounds reasonable enough to me. ^^

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Yeah...how your points apply to your intended domains is very flexible. Just needs a reasonable explanation if it's not self-explanatory. Also, I think that points spent might count for domains that you don't intend to pursue. Maybe one day you get pushed off your island and onto a nearby island, or there's just too much synergy to not adopt the domain later on. So anything that fits you and another domain ought to get you points toward establishing that domain in the future.


I'll admit I'm at a bit of a loss here. I'm not sure if I should join one pantheon and abandon the other or stick with the North.

I'm lost.


Hmmm. I'm considering whether to join in Nes' competition. On one hand, I as a player would love to be more social, but it just seems off for Oenar, with her kind of no-b#~!@%#+ and somewhat stern attitude. I'll have to consider how to make it fit, because it would be fun, just got to come up with something good.

Hey, Yir - would you be interested in doing some RPing with me? I'm thinking perhaps we have a previous connection; the goddess of the seas would probably have some kind of relationship with the goddess of snow. We both survived the end of the world (rather than being newborns like Nico Bolas) while losing those we cared about. Also, we both seem to enjoy the big beasts more than the humans :)

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

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I don't see any rule that says you can't be in multiple pantheons. My intention has been to fully represent aspects of my being in different pantheons. The just god of death, the wicked god of murder, the last one to blow out the candles, etc.

That just makes sense to me: there are multiple sun gods, multiple storm or thunder gods, multiple gods of war or the forge. I think of pantheons as groups of gods whose aspects are worshiped by a specific culture. In the north, death is a necessity met with courage. In the World Below, death is a form of currency.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

@ Ilja/Oenar, I would love that! That and the fact that she made the moon, which causes the tides, I get the feeling they would get along rather well. :)

Also, thanks everyone for the feed back on the portfolio question I had.

Shadow Lodge

umh .. how would mechanically work to be in multiple pantheons? you gain a bonus for every pantheon that has 3 or more gods in it?
It's a storytelling game and I'm sure that we would stomp anything too gamey but I can see a huge exploit right out of the bat.
But I am not opposed to that (the multiple pantheons, not the exploit)
Can you mods come up with an official ruling on being part of multiple pantheons?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

That's how the mechanics would work, surre. The rules don't mention it, and irl multiple versions of a god show up in different pantheons. We'll have a just death, a murserous death, a man vs. nature death...all different aspects. And different cultures will see love or death or judgment or childrearing or nobility differently.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

I just realized my AP costs are wrong, they should be 5 and 5 (as opposed to 4 and 5), taking me down to 5 AP left.

Also, would large, storm herding sky whales be considered Legendary or greater life?
I'm leaning towards greater myself, given they are no where near as powerful as the Leviathans. But since I am on the fence I want to make sure I am not spending too little, or too much on creating this little buggers.

@Nes, I got a kick out of my letter, very nicely done


Male Fledgling Deity
Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

I just realized my AP costs are wrong, they should be 5 and 5 (as opposed to 4 and 5), taking me down to 5 AP left.

Also, would large, storm herding sky whales be considered Legendary or greater life?
I'm leaning towards greater myself, given they are no where near as powerful as the Leviathans. But since I am on the fence I want to make sure I am not spending too little, or too much on creating this little buggers.

@Nes, I got a kick out of my letter, very nicely done

Thank you, and it was my pleasure!

Shadow Lodge

Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

I just realized my AP costs are wrong, they should be 5 and 5 (as opposed to 4 and 5), taking me down to 5 AP left.

Also, would large, storm herding sky whales be considered Legendary or greater life?
I'm leaning towards greater myself, given they are no where near as powerful as the Leviathans. But since I am on the fence I want to make sure I am not spending too little, or too much on creating this little buggers.

@Nes, I got a kick out of my letter, very nicely done

I think that it really depends on how "powerful" they are.

All in all the only true mechanical difference between creatures is the kind of concepts they can use and their combat bonus.
Assuming that you don't want to make Sky whales into powerful monstrosities, As greater life they could use magical concepts already.
Legendary would make them use even greater concepts. If you plan to make them Jedi and create the force they would be legendary.
If they were flying and .. that's it, I would even consider sentient (if they have humanlike intelligence) or monstrous life.
I would go with greater.


Male Fledgling Deity

I should say, that I did a lot of mushing years ago, but this is my first play-by-post style game. I expect I may use odd terminology and apologize if I do anything weird IC/OOC. =)

My last post should serve as a scene-set for the beginning of Nes' hosted gathering. So everybody feel free to waltz in at your convenience (if you care to, of course).


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)
Scarletrose wrote:
Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

I just realized my AP costs are wrong, they should be 5 and 5 (as opposed to 4 and 5), taking me down to 5 AP left.

Also, would large, storm herding sky whales be considered Legendary or greater life?
I'm leaning towards greater myself, given they are no where near as powerful as the Leviathans. But since I am on the fence I want to make sure I am not spending too little, or too much on creating this little buggers.

@Nes, I got a kick out of my letter, very nicely done

I think that it really depends on how "powerful" they are.

All in all the only true mechanical difference between creatures is the kind of concepts they can use and their combat bonus.
Assuming that you don't want to make Sky whales into powerful monstrosities, As greater life they could use magical concepts already.
Legendary would make them use even greater concepts. If you plan to make them Jedi and create the force they would be legendary.
If they were flying and .. that's it, I would even consider sentient (if they have humanlike intelligence) or monstrous life.
I would go with greater.

Okay! I just wasn't sure where the line was drawn between the two.

As much fun as jedi sky whales might be, it was never really part of the plan. I'll set them as greater and get to work on their creation!


Fledgling Deity
Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

@ Ilja/Oenar, I would love that! That and the fact that she made the moon, which causes the tides, I get the feeling they would get along rather well. :)

Also, thanks everyone for the feed back on the portfolio question I had.

Sounds great! Now, did we know each other before the war (did you exist before the war? I got the impression that you did at least)? We could even be related, seeing as how I'm the god of winter and cold and my sister was god of the night sky before me; I could very well be your sibling, or wife, or nephew, or aunt, or even your child, if we would want something like that. Plenty of room for drama that way. Or we could never have seen each other before, either way works fine for me.

I'm holding off on posting in the thread now mainly because I want to know beforehand how I'll react to you :D


I'm uncertain how many points I have left. Do I have enough to make a judge for the dead?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Including Pantheon points, your total is 37.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

@Oenar,

I was thinking maybe sisters? It would make sense having the night sky, the snow and ice, and the sea gods related, especially sense you have taken over the role of goddess of the night sky. We probably wouldn't see each other too often except in the winter, due to the sea ice forming. I figured we would have at least a polite relationship, if not down right friendly.

By the way, I was thinking about coming up with the concept of star maps/constellations, but given your domain, I figured I should ask you first (both ooc and ic) before I have those concepts. :)


Steven T. Helt wrote:
Including Pantheon points, your total is 37.

Holy crap! I gotta get busy!


Yir: sisters sound great. Itll be a good reunion! Star maps already exist though, as part of the astronomy/astronavigation concept i created for erandes people. Feel free to acces it though :) ill write a play post this afternoon :)

Melehan:
I think steven ment before spending any.

Radiant Oath

Okay, so I've basically done nothing but 5 point actions to start with so:

Divine decree -5
Weave Plane -5
Create Sanctum -3
Shape Land -5

19, then? I'll still have to get busy. Probably going to create a demigod to serve as my seneschal and then maybe a race of psychopomps to conduct the souls of the dead to my realm.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)
Ilja wrote:

Yir: sisters sound great. Itll be a good reunion! Star maps already exist though, as part of the astronomy/astronavigation concept i created for erandes people. Feel free to acces it though :) ill write a play post this afternoon :)

Melehan:
I think steven ment before spending any.

Okay! I must of have skimmed over it when reading through the game play. Thank you for access to them! I can't really be a Goddess of travel without at least some forms of navigation. :T

Just out of curiosity, which time zone are you in?


Okay, I've spent 18 points overall. Were those on my domains? Can I advance?


To lay this out again.

ALL AP actions go towards domains of your choosing.

Once you have spent 7 AP towards a domain, you then must spend 3 AP on the "Gain Domain" action (Which doesn't go toward any domains, unlike every other action.)

Once you have enough domains to increase in divine rank, you must spend 5? 6? AP(mods help me out here) and have spent at least 1-2 months(real world time, once again mods help me with the actual numbers)

effectively limiting progress in divine rank gaining so that people don't just shoot up through the ranks.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

Aeon and Melehan,

I believe it is 6 weeks from a previous mod post, I will try hurriedly to find it.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)
Jezebelle, our lady of passion wrote:
Yidhra, Goddess of Paradoxes wrote:
I thought we had something along the lines of "Pay 6 AP to ascend a rank after having all the domains, and you can do it only every 6 weeks"?
Right .. saw it now in the recruitment session .. I totally missed that, I usually look at the wiki for the rules. (btw I think the points are 5)

YAY! I found it.

So not a mod, but a reference to something that a mod said. I will continue hunting for the actual amount of AP in order to go up a rank.

EDIT:
I found the actual post mentioned above in the recruitment section. I cut out the other questions so that there wouldn't be a big long post to search through.

Ilja wrote:


Yidhra, Goddess of Paradoxes wrote:
I don't think the rules have actually explained how to get stronger... XD;

You're right, they don't really. They just list a minimum domain needed. Or rather, the rules do provide for a means to get domains and abilities, but not have a higher divine rank.

So I have a suggestion on a mechanic for this:
When you have enough domains needed, and there was at least six weeks since you gained a divine rank (including at least six weeks since you joined the game), rising a divine rank is a 5 AP action.

- Also, a god may lose a divine rank by choice at any time.
- If a god of at least lesser deity rank were going to die, she could spend 2 AP to instead lose a divine rank, and be gone for one week only to be reformed. (This would be the only fool-proof way to prevent death)

And one more rule we could implement if we wanted:
There can be only 3 greater+ deities and 6 intermediate+ deities total. If this number is already filled, a god vying for power would have to get rid of a more powerful god in some way.

Radiant Oath

So...does it have to be a domain you WANT, or one you already have?


It should be a domain you want to get. ^^


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

For example, if I were to make some sort of sentient life that I picked to add 2 AP to either my in progress Monster or Protection domain, I could spend an additional 3AP to make one of them (which ever one I reached 7/7 with) officially my domain. However, if I chose to make my sky whales (soon, I will make those cuties soon) and decide to put their 3 AP into the domain of Air/Sky I could not officially gain any domain until I had spent at least an addition 2 AP on either Protection or Monster or and additional 4 on Air/Sky, prior to the 3AP 'officiating' fee.

After I were to acquire an additional domain (going up to 4 in my control) and once I had been part of the game for at least 6 weeks I could spend 5 AP and rank up.

Not sure if that helps :X


Female Greater Deity Domains: Chaos (Love, Hate), Charm (Beauty), Art (Wonders), Sin (Lust, Pride), Dreams (Dreamland), Magic (rituals), Civilization (culture), Murder (ritual sacrifice)
Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

For example, if I were to make some sort of sentient life that I picked to add 2 AP to either my in progress Monster or Protection domain, I could spend an additional 3AP to make one of them (which ever one I reached 7/7 with) officially my domain. However, if I chose to make my sky whales (soon, I will make those cuties soon) and decide to put their 3 AP into the domain of Air/Sky I could not officially gain any domain until I had spent at least an addition 2 AP on either Protection or Monster or and additional 4 on Air/Sky, prior to the 3AP 'officiating' fee.

After I were to acquire an additional domain (going up to 4 in my control) and once I had been part of the game for at least 6 weeks I could spend 5 AP and rank up.

Not sure if that helps :X

No, actually one action can and usually do count for multiple domains.

Making sky whales for 3 AP count as 3 AP for air/sky but also 3 AP for Monster.
Also, there could be something you are not thinking about right now but that could make sense for the future... for example they could be 3 point for the Jedi domain. :P
The rules says you have to spend 7 point in action relative to the domain you want, but the action may be valid for more than a single domain.
If you look at my profile or Azdan's you can see some examples of how we break down domain gains.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)
Jezebelle, our lady of passion wrote:
Yir, The Maelstorm wrote:

For example, if I were to make some sort of sentient life that I picked to add 2 AP to either my in progress Monster or Protection domain, I could spend an additional 3AP to make one of them (which ever one I reached 7/7 with) officially my domain. However, if I chose to make my sky whales (soon, I will make those cuties soon) and decide to put their 3 AP into the domain of Air/Sky I could not officially gain any domain until I had spent at least an addition 2 AP on either Protection or Monster or and additional 4 on Air/Sky, prior to the 3AP 'officiating' fee.

After I were to acquire an additional domain (going up to 4 in my control) and once I had been part of the game for at least 6 weeks I could spend 5 AP and rank up.

Not sure if that helps :X

No, actually one action can and usually do count for multiple domains.

Making sky whales for 3 AP count as 3 AP for air/sky but also 3 AP for Monster.
Also, there could be something you are not thinking about right now but that could make sense for the future... for example they could be 3 point for the Jedi domain. :P
The rules says you have to spend 7 point in action relative to the domain you want, but the action may be valid for more than a single domain.
If you look at my profile or Azdan's you can see some examples of how we break down domain gains.

You are simply amazing. I had not realized I could do that with points.

Ah yes, the Jedi Sky Whales, Heralds of the Storm. :P

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

A couple of things for current players in the game:

I think we should have a rule that inactivity costs you. If someone wants to sit out for six months and then come back with 100 to blow up at once, I don't think that's cool. The rules aren't solid enough to prevent inactivity from being an advantage in the game.

Second, I think we should open the game up to 2-3 new players at a time, and then existing players can discuss when to open it to new players. We have 2-3 brand new players right now. Should we close new invites until we reach a place where activity dies down and the world needs new influences?

We don't want 20 players, ultimately, right? And too many players at once makes it hard to keep track of everything going on at once. Particularly in a game so rules light as to allow sweeping changes to the universe in a single day.

Aeon...how about using some of that power you've built up to make a sun!

Cause...buying authority over the sun and then hiding it in the plane of shadow could be a real thing soon...........

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Oh. Rowe (Nes) is in a contest to win a fiction writing commission at koboldpress.com. Please give him a brithday present. Hope over and vote for his very funny story about an established NPC in the Midgard world. Today is the last day to vote, so please spend a few minutes to give him some love!


I have 0 AP right now... Also the rules state that any God that is inactive for 3 weeks dies and his creations continues on as kind of open license.


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

In that case are Nico Bolas's creations up for grabs? He has not been on/posted since the end of March.
I personally would like the sea serpents. Possibly the dragons, but honestly I do not feel as though I have a sufficient claim to them presently. Maybe once I gain either the Monster or Sky domain I'll revisit and ask if anyone objects given their status as legendary life.


Hello newcomers! Nice to meet you. This is Nihil's player, which you may not see around much because he mostly watches. Might resolve that eventually, but mostly watching for now.

@Steven The AP total cap is really what's meant to make inactivity disadvantageous, as well as the fact that inactivity for 3 weeks makes your creations free for targeting. However, if another disadvantage is sought, may I suggest that no posting for a week means that you don't get AP for the roll-over? I'm not inclined for it, because that discourages gods from returning if they can't do so with a bang, but it's reasonable to encourage constant posting if only to remind the world that you're alive.

I also vote on closing recruitment for now too, for the reasons you stated.

@Yir Inactive for three weeks means creations are free for targeting. There are no rules for taking control of life or civilizations as of yet. May have to discuss this with other mods if it should be free, or if taking control should have an AP charge (especially for higher forms of life and complex civilizations). There's already a precedent for monuments and the like anyway.

Before that, however, I'll PM Nico Bolas to see if he's still interested in continuing.

Also, we really need to update the Wordpress account. I can barely catch up with all these posts!

And Happy Birthday, Rowe!


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

@Rashly, Okay! I figured that he would get messaged just encase stuff had gotten busy for him. I know that things slip my mind fairly easily when everything seems to be piling up.

Also, how about life creations cost 1 less AP to gain control over from a dormant god than their cost of creation? Making monstrous life free, but sentient, greater and legendary life cost 1,2, and 4 AP respectively?

And before I forget (again), Happy birthday, Rowe!


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

Lagdorn is your race presently able to conduct space travel?

Edit: Also ask a mod to check over your cost values, they seem off (example creating a planet only costs 5 AP; however, that being said it is a "normal" planet as far as I can tell)


I never determined what domains my actions were towards. What should I do now?


Figure something out and retroactively claim it was for those domains? XD


Female Fledgeling Deity Domains: Open Water(Oceans, Seas), Weather( Wind, Lightening, Clouds, Rain), Monsters (Sea, Sky)

Yidhra, you may end up being the accidental savior of the planet XD


Well, I DO happen to have an idea for what to do... but I'm currently saving energy to go up a level, which I should be able to in about three days. XD I'll see what I can do afterwards, though.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Melehan: you and everyone who has not previously ought to retrace your steps and assign values to anything that might work toward areas you want to influence.


You mean reread the entire thread?


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Thought I would offer an assist.

Melehan's AP expenditure:

Actions:

Create Legendary Concept (Souls) -5 AP
Create Legendary Concept (Afterlife) -5 AP
Weave Plane (The Amaranthine, the land of the dead) -5 AP

Ability Gained: Crystal Seer (-5 AP)

Weave Sanctum (-3 AP): The Last Tribunal, Melehan's judgment seat and place of residence. Here he will judge the souls of the dead, house his future servants and entertain his fellow divinities.

Melehan creates The Peak of Paradise and the Pit of Perdition. -5 AP.

Create Demigod (Artioa, the Black and White Warden) -5 points

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