Oh, hey, the PRD updated its Universal Monster Rules page. That makes working this out much easier—it used to be a lot vaguer about whether Lifesense was "blindsight for living people" or "blindsense for living people". It's nice to have it cleared up just in time for the installment finale.
Wait--the ulgurstasta goes twice?
The Apostle of Kyuss does what it does.
And on that note, I'm off to bed.
In all honesty, I'm actually kinda glad we're doing this for a boss fight.
Okay, this just got a lot more complicated.
I think we should we keep focusing on bringing down the Apostle as fast as we can.
On the off chance it matters, since you said the Apostle had DR, my shield is made of Mithral so overcomes DR/Silver.
Probably has DR/Good or something, but covering my bases.
Tanith also, currently, has pummeling style.
I'm really wary of having that many Spawn of Kyuss in our faces, myself. I think Farrukh and Tanith should keep focusing on killing the Maggot King, but maybe Carina and Astraden can work on clearing the floor of regurgitated minions? Rodrio might be able to pit some too; I don't think he has anything that's likely to directly affect the Apostle (besides lion-mauling, of course...)
I can at least fly above their heads and start blowing Kyuss-spawn away, definitely.
On the off chance it matters, since you said the Apostle had DR, my shield is made of Mithral so overcomes DR/Silver.
Probably has DR/Good or something, but covering my bases.
It's actually a "practical" DR—the creature's shell is just tricky to hurt with your slashing or bludgeoning weapons.
Tanith also, currently, has pummeling style.
Didn't you select the replacement feat already?
I did. I just didn't think we were applying the errata and making the changes in the middle of an encounter.
The only difference I can see is the metagame one of "I deal more damage in this one encounter if we delay the change". Which, I have to be honest, I don't really care for. But fine, we'll let the feat stay where it is until the combat's over.
KC, if I used Blessing of Fervour to give myself an extra attack, would that override the additional attack I'd get from Haste?
These effects are not cumulative with similar effects, such as those provided by haste or a speed weapon, nor do they actually grant an extra action, so you can't use it to cast a second spell or otherwise take an extra action in the round. Blessing of fervor does not stack with haste.
Alrighty then. I'm waiting on Tanith's AoO (if he wants to take it) before I start throwing bombs around.
I didn't mean anything by it KC. I really just didn't think we'd be making the change in the middle of the fight. If you want to make the change now I can edit my ki points.
It's not really in the middle of a fight—the fight between you guys and Auric was a separate battle which was effectively over pretty quickly. Now a new combat is starting. As I said in my PM (which may now come across as heavy-handed, incidentally—I didn't see your post before I sent it, so I apologize if it comes across as hostile or rude), I would prefer you choose one feat or the other.
Yeah that's fine. I misunderstood the intended timing for that whole exchange. Extra Ki it is.
For what it's worth, if you would rather take Pummeling Strike instead now, feel free—I don't want to feel like anyone "gotcha" on this.
No, I'm still not in love with the feat for the DR overcoming bonus. I just thought it would be a great coincidence that the last encounter I had it Pummeling Style would be useful.
Did Astraden's prayer affect me as well?
If I use Manyshot, and one of the two arrows is a seeking arrow, does that mean I ignore concealment penalties for both arrows, since I'm using one attack roll? Or am I bordering on cheesemaking with this?
I hope so....mmmm...cheddar. The group needs a cheesemaker.
I hope so....mmmm...cheddar. The group needs a cheesemaker.
I guess Craft (Alchemy) can't be used for that, huh?
This is why the party needs halflings.
Eben, I would say roll concealment once. If the concealment negates the attack, you don't get double damage.
I just got out of another game and I'm a bit gamed out right now. I'll try to get to more complete responses in the game thread shortly.
Also, sidenote, Carina, you'll be taking some AoOs unless I'm very much mistaken from the undead mob.
Yep, I'm aware of that.
I'm trying to track Tanith's buff bonuses to CMD. I've got a +2 from BoF, a +1 size modifier, a +1 Enlarged strength modifier, and a +1 net Dex modifier from Cat's Grace, all added to the base 38 CMD*. I'm sure I'm missing a bonus not included on Eben's list, though. It seems to be a very close call. I leave it up to you guys to find the +1 that pushes him into the safe zone. I'm sure it's out there.
*And not to the "48" CMD you silly kobold.
DIRGE OF DOOM.
Found it. It wasn't an obscure +1, it was a fairly non-obscure -2. Remember to thank your bard later.
EDIT: Found an obvious +2 to Apostle: It's flanking, making up for the -2. So the hunt continues. I'm about to go to bed.
Might be worthwhile...
A creature can also add any circumstance, deflection, dodge, insight, luck, morale, profane, and sacred bonuses to AC to its CMD. Any penalties to a creature's AC also apply to its CMD. A flat-footed creature does not add its Dexterity bonus to its CMD.
Yeah, but nobody cast shield of faith or the like on Tanith. Not in the bufflist, anyways. Dodge bonuses are already being counted (BoF).
Well, there's always Plan B:
Farrukh kill-stealing the Apostle before it eats Tanith.
Alternatively, I could burn an AP to act immediately and try to knock the Apostle down with force bombs...
Everyone's forgetting my ki point!
Seriously, one of these days I'm just going to go over your profile and make every weird ability link to the page it's from and a page explaining in detail how Tanith has it. But that'll probably break the site. ;P
Where does that ki point usage come from?
(Incidentally, the Apostle actually got a 44 since it's out of range of the Dirge, not that it matters)
It's from my class/archetype that I have 7 levels in.
We just had a discussion about taking extra ki!
Wait, how are you getting ki? You're a warpriest! Silly Tanith. Go back to casting healing spells and punching things with your fists only.
I did a second double-take when I forgot for a moment how Dodge bonuses worked. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Dodge bonuses didn't stack and the Apostle actually barely hit? I mean, in a morbid way. Schrodinger's Tanith is right on his way.
Did we get tentacle damage for this round? I'm trying to figure out how much I've taken (including my 1/2 for Carina's share). The damage from the first round was negated by Astraden's channel.
Oh, right. I'll roll that up, then head to bed. Will saves for Astraden's channel will come tomorrow.
In my defense in all this, it's 1:40 am over here.
It's 1:40am here too!
My roommate and I just got home from a zany adventure in LA hitting some of the places from this list.
Carina I took half of the AoO claw damage and half of your tentacle damage.
Gotcha.
Would it be worth it to drop another AP on seeing exactly how much HP the Apostle has left?
Holy s%!*, is the Apostle using Action Points?
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Holy s$*~, is the Apostle using Action Points?
KC seems to have made the Apostle some sort of amalagam of a Mythic "boss creature" that gets two Initiative scores, but has Action Point instead of (hopefully) Mythic Power.
This does mark a small milestone—not only is this the first Gargantuan creature you've faced, this is the first creature you've faced with Action Points.
Anyways, I assume you're asking if flanking and invisibility bonuses stack—yes, but in this case the Apostle is aware of your presence.
Hey guys, hope you don't mind me dropping in to discussion.
Just wanted to say I've been following this thread for a good while and been really enjoying it. Props for this game's quality and endurance.
Thanks for the interest! :D
I guess, as the Apostle of Kyuss, this guy deserves APs. Arguably, the Ebon Aspect way back when would have merited them as well, but then we'd probably all be dead. :-)