After giving it some though, yeah, I'm going to swap my familliar's Giant template for the Arcane template.
Question: Do familliars, whose HP is normally half that of their master, still get the HP bonus from their mythic template?
I'm waiting on RVT's final answer as to what our familliars' tier is before I go on on that point.
Sorry about the wait! Here are my answers to your questions.
Monkey, post-apotheosis, it's too weak and has too few unique abilities. Sent you a PM. And yes, I have been reading through ascension.
Trazzle, I can allow you to create the items like that.
Yukio, the templates are fine and alignment is waived regarding the Dread Wraith template.
Camiel, once Deep Magic comes out, I will allow you to retroactively change your spell list. I will, however, need you to send me the descriptions of the spells.
Tenro, you may take Mindsight.
FAMILIARS, ANIMAL COMPANIONS, ECT., GAIN 3 MYTHIC TIERS OF A TYPE DECIDED BY THEIR MASTER. THESE TIERS GRANT ALL STATISTICAL BONUSES, EVEN IF DOING SO BREAKS CONVENTIONAL RULES. THIS WAY, NO ONE IS HINDERED BY THEIR BOON COMPANION!
FAMILIARS, ANIMAL COMPANIONS, ECT., GAIN 3 MYTHIC TIERS OF A TYPE DECIDED BY THEIR MASTER. THESE TIERS GRANT ALL STATISTICAL BONUSES, EVEN IF DOING SO BREAKS CONVENTIONAL RULES. THIS WAY, NO ONE IS HINDERED BY THEIR BOON COMPANION!
How, if at all, does this stack with mythic templates?
Cydrius, the effective Tier Rank does not stack, but the statistical changes do.
Okay, so if I understand correctly, my familliar would have, for example, the Arcane template with a MR of 3, and three tiers of a mythic path. Is this correct?
Exactly! ^_^
Alright, thanks!
Apologies if this was already asked and I missed it, if you take a cohort (and we're allowed to have cohorts) and they have levels, are they done as gestalt as well?
Oh, and put my backstory and description in the profile. As far as the notion of if the characters have run into each other previously, it might be better to go with not necessarily. I can't really picture my character having much previously bopped around with a neutral evil elder brain for instance.
So, I'd like to get a quick rundown of what members of the party have what classes.
Because there are seven of us, I'm strongly considering switching from bombs to sneak attacking with vivisectionist to avoid the issue of splash damage, but I'd like to get an idea of the party's melee vs. ranged status before I make a decision.
Unrelatedly, I have my familliar complete.
Cryptic and Aegis. My primary offense will be 30ft ranged touch attacks that can, but do not necessarily, splash. Also 8 tentacles with a reach of 10-15ft.
Yukio is melee focused with a heavy dose of blasting via Spell Perfection: Shadow Evocation. Familiar is stealth/reconnaissance and companion is support/buffing/messenger, although both are effective in melee when needed.
I've got improved evasion, so I should be unaffected by the splash damage assuming the reflex DC is below 36. Of my two companions, I suspect my familiar will be the only one in melee range often, and if I throw a resist energy (fire) on him he'll be fine (1/4 damage taken from Ref saves and incorporeal).
On the subject of tactics, does anyone not have darkvision? I'll be operating in darkness or dim light most of the time if I can manage it.
Finally, I'm finished with all my crunch now, although I'll probably go over it again in a few days to try and catch any errors.
My crunch is mostly done, I have some gear to finalize.
Trazzle is focused on debuffing, passing extracts around at the start of each day for you guys to buff yourselves when you want, and on lobbing bombs at foes. Depending on party constution, I may or may not switch to sneak attacks instead. Right now, I am very indecisive on this point.
Battle Scion and Rogue 4/Paladin 3/Fighter 7 (buckler duelist) as my classes. Pretttty much melee stuff with some mild ranged capacity from the force blasts and such.
Ah, also my character has improved evasion (+19 ref saves before gear) and resistance 30 to all elements, so the splash shouldn't harm me too much.
OK, just need to finish mythic stuff and equipment. Didn't have room for item creation stuff, so equipment should be fairly quick.
That said, i have a question (actually many) regarding Legendary Items
We get the ability once for free, GM gift.
You mentioned no need to take the Mythic Ability for it unless we "wanted another".
Would that mean we can have two? from my understanding you can only be bonded to one item, unless you are overriding that or i am misunderstanding it.
That said, say i take Legendary Item again. Will we be gaining more mythic tiers? as it stands, the item can have 6 abilities but I can only use 3 of them as i am tier 3. If we gain no more mythic tiers, then i am best not taking the Legendary Item path ability again.
Also, if i do take Legendary Item again, it becomes a minor artifact. You said it will become a major artifact upon ascension. will that be via Mythic Rules, or something else independent that may/may not stack with mythic?
THOOON is all done, except for my questions in the post just above this one. Once that gets settled, my last little bit of mythic will be decided and the character fully complete.
Finished equipment and made sure final changes to things cascaded everywhere they should, but when i went to submit, paizo errored out several times. as soon as i can post the update, i will.
Thirrian will focus on ranged touch attacked at 40ft that will usually splash for minimum damage. As well as AoO on anyone within 15ft. He has some nifty utility with his gadgets and prototypes but is primarily a ranged damage dealer
Caster, all the way. Obviously focused on Cold. Can heal and buff/debuff as well.
Isn't there a feat that lets you shape your splash effects to exclude allies?
In the end, I'm gonna stick to the back lines; I just plain wouldn't have the AC for the front lines.
Also, Petrikov, there is and I have it, but on a miss it still splashes.
Well, I figure with the power level our familliars have in this game, it might not hurt to split their actions into a separate post and alias. Should help keep track.
By the way, when is the campaign planned to start?
Without a doubt. I think our familiars could form their own adventuring company and probably do pretty well :p
Peredur, cohorts are not gestalt, but gain 3 Mythic Ranks. I do warn you though, if you take cohorts, I will up the difficulty. Combat at times will be like a mythic meat grinder as it is, so consider this carefully.
Tenro, I will be overriding that rule. If you take Legendary Item, it will NOT become a deific relic. And you guys will, in all hopes, get to level 30/30, MR10, Divine Rank: (Whatever is under the top 3,) by the end of the campaign.
THE CAMPAIGN WILL LIKELY BEGIN FRIDAY! PLAYTESTING THE ENCOUNTERS AND TWEAKING THEM TO BE SURVIVABLE, BUT CHALLENGING FOR EVERYONE!
I will try to check everyone's crunch later.
still having trouble updating that alias. i sent an email to the webmaster, i imagine there is just something wrong in the mound of text i tried to submit.
EDIT: guess I got it figured out, looks like there was a text limit. I tested each section individually, thinking that there was some sort of parsing issue with the formatting, but each section individually checked out as fine. submitted the whole thing once more, just leaving off the last section (which was there for my convenience alone) and it worked.
I'd like to request not taking cohorts. I think there's enough of us already, and any actual characters added, as opposed to class-feature companions, will just bog down combat further, which I'd like to avoid.
I very much agree with Trazzle in regards to cohorts!
Camiel, go ahead and send me how you progressed as a PM please. ^_^
No cohorts for this guy!
I took legendary item, but I might just keep the free instance of it and take mythic weapon finesse for +8 damage to each hit. Doesnt sound like much but when you have 8 tentacles...
but if we are ranking up mythically, ill eventually have 6 powers on my one item if I use the second iteration of legendary item on it....
I'll drop the cohort then if everyone would rather it be avoided. Opens up a feat slot I s'pose.
Did we want to start sorting out domains/sub-domains to reduce overlap?
Assuming that two of the five domains are alignment domains, I've currently got Chaos (Protean), Good (Redemption), Darkness (Night), Trickery (Deception or Thievery), and Retribution. Other Possible candidates are Liberation (Revolution), Knowledge, and Magic (Arcane)
Obviously Darkness is the big one for Yukio.
I'm myself okay with something like domain overlap. I'd figure that such domains as have been picked were intended to be reflective of conceptual stuff, in that sense, a domain might overlap, but the particular character's implementation/interpretation of the notions behind it and why it ties into them provide differentiation.
With that said, was looking to go with knowledge, strength, protection, nobility and good. I could switch out strength for war and good for glory, if that helps anyone all the same.
My primary domain is Winter/Cold, but I would like Darkness as well. As I said over in the main thread, and RVT agreed, Winter and Darkness tend to go together. Obviously, if there can be no overlap, I have no problem ceding it to Yukio.
Beyond that, Death(Undead/Necromancy) is another option.
I've got no problem with overlap myself, after all winter and shadows might both involve darkness, but not really in the same sense. Also there's definitely overlap in domains between the normal deities, so it's not like it's forbidden. RVT had mentioned overlap earlier, however, so I figured I'd bring it up again in the lull before the game gets started.
I'm honestly myself finding the whole Thoon thing mildly problematic, having read the backstory for the character. The guy bopping around enslaving people and spreading insanity and driving people insane and so forth, it's something of an extremely rough fit with my own character.
I don't mind overlap myself either.
I kind of agree about the whole enslavement thing, though. It is quite at odds with Trazzle's ideals of freedom.
Thoon, have you considered being a chaotic monstrosity as opposed to an evil one? :P
Which reminds me, I'm still finalizing my own crunch stuff and all (and might just take the template down one track ultimately), but I think most of our character backstories are up.
Now seems like a good time to eyeball each other's and to express concerns/ask questions anyone might have on them amongst the group.
I mean, the GM can ultimately say we're all forced to work together by the circumstances regardless, sure, but that's less of an amicable situation than it is, well, the characters having to play being forced to work together, or otherwise some characters having to treat the others like dupes and conceal what they do, and any other sort of thing.
I just got my hardcover copy of Deep Magic!!. Its massive(375 pages) and hella sexy!!!
Now that I have a bit more time:
Trazzle stands for Knowledge, Liberation(Freedom), Luck, Travel (Exploration) and Trickery. I don't really mind overlapping with anyone, and I hope anyone I overlap with doesn't mind either.
I'm nearly done with my crunch as well, and one thing has me in stitches: Trazzle has Haste. All the time. Eternal Potion is absolutely hilarious.
I have knowledge as well, but like I say, don't mind the overlap at all. I much imagine Trazzle and Peredur have completely different perspectives on that whole aspect of things anyway.
Indeed. Trazzle sees Knowledge not as something inherently valuable, but as just another useful tool in his search for freedom and discovery.
Whereas for Peredur it's one of his big hallmarks of a great society, yeah.
From what I understood, your avatar would look like what you looked like pre-ascention, while your god form looks wacky and different.
By the way, I'd like to encourage everyone to peruse the Alchemist formulae list for some buffs they would like Trazzle to prepare for them once the party is gathered.
I have way more spell slots than I would know what to do with, and I have the infusion discovery, so I would love to pass some infusions around at the start of the day for you guys to do with as you please. Please do note, however, that most of my level 2 slots will be taken up with Alchemical Allocation; I encourage you to seek higher level equivalents instead.
I hadn't noticed before, but the "Delayed Consumption" extract is really nice, almost like a minor contingency. With a duration of days/level there's no reason everyone can't have one buff of choice ready to call upon.
Fluid Form would be a nice ability to be able to call upon, free +10' reach is a pretty nice buff, especially with combat reflexes and high dex. Freedom of movement would also be a good choice.
On the topic of buffs, I don't know if anyone else has Enduring Blessing, but Yukio has it and can hand out any buffs with 10 min duration as permanent (the best choices are probably heroism or resist energy). Try to keep it between 1st and 4th level though, since I'll have to dedicate slots every day to it. Additionally, Aeliastraza has Mythic Contingency and as such can cast it on others once a day. Since the duration is 17 days, it's easy to get contingency on everyone. Any 5th level or lower spell that she has is valid (next level heal will become available).