Animate Dead is an evil spell (it's right there in the spell descriptor in brackets) so regardless of your character's alignment, it will be an evil act. As a GM, I'd be inclined to eventually shift a character over to Evil for repeated use of the spell (or indeed, any evil spell) excepting in very special circumstances where there are no other good options to achieve a task.
Even in a world where animating the dead was not an inherently evil spell, the act of binding corpses to your will is an ethical problem. I would argue most cultures would believe that even in death, a person should have some form of "say" over the use of their body (hence why in the real world you must sign off to have your body used for medical research, why necrophilia is considered a vile act, and why we typically seek people's opinions on how their body is treated in funeral rites).
Not trying to hate on necromancers. Generally if I have a player who wants to do a necromancer but not be evil I turn them towards the White Necromancer (3pp class) which is a great take on it.
The bottom line is that it does not fit the setting as a heroic character. Even if you were a white necromancer, literally no one in Andoran is going to see things from your perspective. Even worse, animating undead is seen as a type of post-death enslavement, and there is absolutely nothing in the entire world that Andorens hate more than slavery. They devote entire branches of their military to wiping out slavery in the entire world, because just outlawing it in their corner isn't good enough for their ethics.
Poop. How 'bout a magus, then? I've been wanting to play one of those for a while, too.
Magus is all good :)
just be careful 'bout them [evil] spells ;)
It's simply that I disagree with the game designers. I would argue that unless the spell's casting process involves some inherently evil act, such as rape, or murder of an innocent, then magic is neither good nor evil. It depends on how it is used. Ah well. C'est la vie.
I present to you, Anthony Read, Tiefling Magus Fiend flayer. I'm not sure about the ability scores yet. I don't really like the idea of having a 5 in anything, but I wanted to make sure I had 13 strength for power attack later. So I might change it before the game starts because it still feels really awkward every time I look at it.
Anthony Read
Male Tiefling Magus (Fiend Flayer) 1st
NG Medium Outsider (Native)
Init +4; Senses Darkvision 60 ft.; Perception +5
DEFENSE
AC 19, touch 14, flat-footed 15
(armor +4, Dex +4, natural +1)
hp 8 (1d8+0+[1]);
Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +2;
Defensive Abilities Resist Fire 5
OFFENSE
Spd 30 ft.
Melee Rapier +4 (1d6+1) and
Gore +4 (-1 On full attack) (1d6+1)
Ranged
Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
Spells Known (CL 1st):
1st (2/day) Color Spray (DC 15), Shocking Grasp, Infernal Healing, Grease (DC 15), True Strike, Vanish, Monkey Fish, Shield
0 (4/day) All Known.
Spells Prepared (CL 1st):
1st Color Spray (DC 15) x2
0 Read Magic, Prestidigitation, Detect Magic, Mage Hand.
STATISTICS
Str 13 (+1), Dex 18 (+4), Con 11 (+0), Int 18 (+4), Wis 10 (+0), Cha 5 (-3)
Base Atk +0; CMB +1 (+5 with rapier) CMD 15
Class Features
Arcane Pool (5/day): Spend one point as a swift action to grant held weapon +1 enhancement bonus for 1 minute.
Infernal Mortification: As a standard action, deal 2 Constitution damage to self to gain 1 Temporary Arcane Pool point.
Spell Combat: If
Feats
1st: Weapon Finesse: You may apply your dexterity instead of strength to melee attack rolls with light weapons and certain one handed weapons.
Traits
Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp): Anthony's Father was a powerful Wizard and he has inherited a small portion of his greatness.
Choose one spell when you pick this trait (Shocking grasp). When you apply metamagic feats to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell's final adjusted level
Student of Philosophy: Anthony is self-taught in a now defunct philosophical tradition from years of study in ancient tomes.
You can use your Intelligence modifier in place of your Charisma modifier on Diplomacy checks to persuade others and on Bluff checks to convince others that a lie is true. (This trait does not affect Diplomacy checks to gather information or Bluff checks to feint in combat).
Racial Traits
Maw or Claw (Horns): Choose between a bite attack (1d6) or two claw attacks (1d4). (Anthony instead gains a gore attack which is otherwise identical to the bite attack)
Prehensile Tail: Many tieflings have tails, but some have long, flexible tails that can be used to carry items. While they cannot wield weapons with their tails, they can use them to retrieve small, stowed objects carried on their persons as a swift action.
Skilled: Tieflings gain a +2 to Bluff and Stealth checks.
Scaled Skin: You gain a +1 natural armor Bonus to AC and a Resist 5 Fire.
Skills [Total Skill Points: 6]
Bluff -3 (+6 when convincing others of a lie) [0 ranks]
Diplomacy -3 (+4 when persuading others) [0 ranks]
Knowledge (Arcana) +8 [1 rank]
Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +8 [1 rank]
Perform (Dance) -2 [1 Ranks]
Perception +5 [1 rank]
Profession (Fisherman) +4 [1 rank]
Spellcraft +8 [1 rank]
Stealth +6 [0 ranks]
Languages
Abbyssal, Draconic, Taldane (Common), Varisian
Combat Gear
Chain Shirt [100 GP], Rapier [20 GP];
Other Gear
Kit, Magus's [21 GP]
-Backpack
-Bedroll
-Belt Pouch
-Flint & Steel
-Ink
-Inkpen
-Iron Pot
-Mess Kit
-Rope
-Soap
-Spell Components Pouch
-Torches (10)
-Trail Ration (5)
-Waterskin
Spellbook [Free]
EDIT: Had some technical difficulties with the formatting but it should look alright now.
Looks good!
Understand that with a 5 charisma that is low enough that I expect it to effect roleplay. Either by making him incredibly ugly (and with his combination of appearance traits I'd say he's pretty ugly, but play it up in the description) or by RPing him as incredibly boorish and insensitive.
@GM of Liberty:
I was out of town and busy all last week. Finally got around to a back story and such for Úrtnechech. I hope the back story does a good job of explaining why is is the way he is.
I used the Ultimate Campaign background generator for the most part. Mostly random results. Just because. I picked somethings arbitrarily because they were way too contradictory with everything else. I also had fun with the names in the back story:silly anagrams, basically.
Let me know what you think of it when you get a chance to look it over.
Thanks!
Úrtnechech ("URT-netch-etch") is a Half-Orc from the city of Sothis in Osirion. Although not brought up in poverty, he knows the life of a city's underbelly. His father, Grulbar, and mother, Chamar-ti, were both locksmiths, and members of the local thieves guild. Úrtnechech learnt much from his parents about making and opening locks. They taught him how to fight with both Falchions and Great Axes, as well as teach him the Abyssal language. Although he never did learn why his parents knew that language.
Úrtnechech has prominent Orc features, even though both his parents were third or fourth generation Half-Orcs who looked almost human. Úrtnechech was therefore the target of frequent ridicule and bullying for his bestial appearance.
After the untimely death of his parents, due to plague, he joined the "Sandy Dancers"; a gang masquerading as entertainers. They were led by by Pambur-set, a wandering human dancing dervish who took Úrtnechech under his wing. The keen senses of Úrtnechech often helped keep the Sandy Dancers avoid the law.
Úrtnechech often collected black market debts for the Sandy Dancers. This experience made him even more intimidating. Úrtnechech killed one debtor; Reshelao-na. He attacked Úrtnechech who came to collect his debts. It was the first time Úrtnechech killed anyone, but he never felt guilt over the killing. He reasoned that Reshelao-na should have known better than make those sorts of debts anyway.
Ironically, Úrtnechech was arrested for petty crimes he did not commit. He was soon sold off to slavers from Katapesh. An expedient, and profitable, way for Sothis authorities to rid themselves of local troublemakers.
While en route to the Katapesh slave port of Okeno, the slaver ship Úrtnechech was on was intercepted by "pirates" from Andoran who liberated the slaves on board. In the confusion, he managed to equip himself with a rag-tag collection of weapons he found in the slavers hold. Soon after, Úrtnechech found himself in the port city of Almas, the capital of Andoran.
While grateful for his release, Úrtnechech soon became restless with Almas, which just seemed too sedate for him. He soon hired himself out as a guard on ships travelling up the Andossan river, eventually making his way into Northern Andoran, to see if he might find some more profitable uses for his talents there.
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DEFENCE
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AC 16, Touch 12, Flat-Footed 14
HP 10
FORT +2
REF +4
WILL +1
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OFFENCE
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SPEED 30 ft.
MELEE:
• Gladius (1d6+3; 19-20/x2)
• Light Mace (1d6+3; x2)
• Scimitar (1d6+3; 18-20/x2)
RANGED:
• Sling (1d4+3, 50 ft; x2)
SPACE; 5 ft.
REACH; 5 ft.
SPELLS KNOWN: (CL 1, Touch +2, Ranged Touch +2, Concentration +2):
• level 0 (at will): Detect Magic, Light, Mage Hand, Open/Close
• level 1 (2/day): Chord of Shards, Cure Light Wounds
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STATISTICS
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STR 16 (+3), DEX 14 (+2), CON 14 (+2), INT 12 (+1), WIS 8 (-1), CHA 14 (+2)
BAB +0; CMB +3; CMD 15
Feats: Extra Performance
Traits: Brute (race), Vagabond Child (social)
Skills:
• Climb +5 (1 rank) (including AC penalty)
• Diplomacy +6 (1 rank)
• Disable Device +5 (1 rank) (including AC penalty)
• Intimidate +9 (1 rank) (Intimidate racial and Brute trait bonuses)
• Knowledge (local) +5 (1 rank)
• Perception +5 (1 rank) (Half-Orc Beastial racial trait)
• Perform (dance) +6 (1 rank)
• Stealth +4 (1 rank) (including AC penalty)
Languages: Common, Orc, Abyssal
Class Features:
• Cantrips (level 0 spells)
• Battle Dance (Inspire Courage etc. for self only); 12 rounds/day
• Fleet (Su); +10 ft. base speed during Battle Dance
• Inspire Courage (Su) to self; +1 to hit & damage
Current Kit
• Light Wooden Shield (AC +1)
• Parade Armour (AC +3)
• Gladius
• Light Mace
• Scimitar
• Sling
• Sling Bullets (10)
• Ink
• Journal
• Pen
• Silk Rope (50 ft)
• Sunrods x3
• Thieves' Tools
• 50 feet of string
• 50 feet of thread
• backpack
• bedroll
• belt pouch
• clay mug
• dagger
• flint and steel
• sewing needle
• signal whistle
• trail rations (7)
• two fish hooks
• waterskin
• whetstone
• Total encumbrance of 73 lbs. (light)
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SPECIAL ABILITIES
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• Intimidating (racial): +2 racial bonus to Intimidate
• Bestial (racial): +2 racial bonus to perception (replaces Orc Ferocity)
• Weapon Familiarity (racial): Great Axes and Falchions
• Skilled (racial): 1 extra skill point per level (replaces Darkvision)
• Orc Blood (racial): count as both Human and Orc for race effects
• Brute trait (race): add +1 trait bonus to Intimidate
• Vagabond Child trait (social): add +1 trait to Disable Device, and is a class skill
• Half-Orc FCB: +1 round Battle Dance per day
• Human FCB: 1 more spell known, must be below highest level known
• Orc FCB: none
• Extra Performance feat: Six extra bardic performance rounds per day
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PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION
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Age: 18 years old
Height: 5 ft 9 in (175 cm)
Weight: 200 lb (91 kg)
Skin: Green
Build: Stocky
Hair: Black
Eyes: Blue
Special: pronounced Orc features (Bestial racial trait)
@Urtnechech
Looking good :) Love the bandit past. Nice smooth transition from Osirion all the way to Andoran.
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Holy character explosion Batman! By the time the 27th rolls around, GMoL is going to have a full Rogue's Gallery of people to choose from.
Good luck to all and here is to a lot of pacing until the closing bell rings. :)
@Urtnechech
Looking good :) Love the bandit past. Nice smooth transition from Osirion all the way to Andoran.
Thanks! It's always a bit of a trick to avoid loose ends in a back story.
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Yeah there's a crazy amount of good characters here!
I would be really happy to play a game with any combination of these characters. Or even just watch! Now that I think about it, if I don't get in, can I still follow along?
I also had a couple of things wrong with my sheet, but I made an updated one on the profile page of this Alias. I'm having trouble finding a picture I like for Anthony, so I'm drawing my own. Its not great, but its mine. I'm going to upload it to the profile as well soon.
@Anthony Read
Haha, sure!
I am both dreading and excited for the 27th. I have way more apps that I want in than I have spots :(
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I wanted to re arrange the list just to get a better idea of how we are split between the various roles in a party. However as usual there are characters that could fit in more than one category.
-----Arcane------
Michael_Hopkins – Volreg Sundek the Andoren/Ulfen Kineticist (Aether) – Pathfinder, son of Carpenden winemakers (1 game in next month, PFS)
Snake Charmer – Lyrune the elf alchemist – Ex-slave, seeking mother sold to brothel.: (2 games)
Nariel Lauric – aasimar (arcanist) – white mage and gentle healer
-----Divine------
Hogeyhead - Aster Domus the Human Urban Druid – Andoren noble, raised by a wizard, but ended up falling in with a druid cabal: (0 games, new to pbp)
Feth (#1) – Mirode Sharo – elf cleric of Sarenrae, citizen of Oregent, seeking to help ease the suffering of others
-----Multi-skilled------
French Wolf – Herral Hinn the Halfling inquisitor (infiltrator) of Desna – Halfling merchant slash inquisitor of Desna!: (5 games )
CaptainFord – Adrac Rhaddyn the human monk (Ki mystic) – Old adventurer come to Falcon’s Hollow to meet his grand daughter for the first time.: (Already in a Falcon’s Hollow game)
Xunal - Urtnechech – half orc dancing dervish (bard) of Osirion and former bandit
Kubular - Antony Read – tiefling magus and hunter of werewolves
Aleck VARs – fetching rogue – hiding on the Prime Material Plane in Falcons Hollow.
-----Warrior------
Digger – Tarkus Shieldsplitter the dwarf fighter – Blacksmith from Highhelm: (1.5 games)
Orannis – Soroza the Half-orc Urban Ranger – Worshipper of Calistria, seeks to abuse those who exploit sex workers (0 games)
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan – Lieutenant Jansen Naran the Varisian human paladin of Abadar OR bard– Fourth son of an Andoren noble, headed to Falcon’s Hollow to investigate the Lumber Consortium (7 games as player, 1-2 as GM)
Feth - Davi Accerlas – Changeling swashbuckler. Daughter of an Andoren trader, investigating her mother’s call.
Edeldhur – Reknar – cavalier (inspiring commander)
Toxicdragon – Wulfrun Tavernier – human cavalier of the Star, born in Falcon’s Hollow
Apologies to any PC that I have misrepresented, that was not my aim. Reading some of the PCs in some detail makes me fear for Herral's chances, especially with me being in five games.
Cheers
Hm. Been awhile since I've applied for a PbP, but...interesting stuff.
Ka-dot.
This is a ridiculously good list of characters.
This is a ridiculously good list of characters.
No kidding! I brought my A-game with Soroza here, figuring I had a better than good shot.
But this list is amazing! So *many* strong characters! So many that if I got in, there would still be a couple handfuls worth that I'd be sad not to be playing with.
Good luck, everyone! Literally everyone!
Awesome summary, French Wolf.
I've been meaning to update the submissions list but I've been swamped at work.
#of games is a tiebreaker, folks with 9+ games ultimately have an equal chance as those with 0 as long as your submission is strong. But if there are two or three characters all vying for those last couple slots, yeah, it'll go to tiebreaker.
Summary is pretty good for Anthony Read. Really glad you did this. One thing though: Werewolf hunting isn't his main thing, but its a good assumption from my posted backstory. He's more of a freelance adventurer. You can also put me down for 0 play by posts.
I have updated my profile a bit. Added personality and appearance things and a little quote.
I also found out I cannot create a custom avatar which is making me sad... =(
Also wanted to say that Herral was one of my favorite characters here.
I have to say, I'll keep tabs on the story, even if I don't get picked. So many great characters!
Dotting for interest.....
I gotta echo everyone's feelings - good luck to all applicants. There are some nasty good characters and stories in here, dang! :D
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Good luck to all fellow applicants.
Lots of interesting stories and characters for the GM to choose from. GM of Liberty sure has a tough job narrowing down the list of applicants. And that "job" stuff doesn't help!
But the end result will doubtless be a very colorful group. No doubt about that!
I should point out that whether he makes the cut or not, Úrtnechech is definitely not going to be just another pretty face! Just thought I'd mention the obvious! :D
Who needs pretty when it gets things done?
This is a ridiculously good list of characters.No kidding! I brought my A-game with Soroza here, figuring I had a better than good shot.
But this list is amazing! So *many* strong characters! So many that if I got in, there would still be a couple handfuls worth that I'd be sad not to be playing with.
Good luck, everyone! Literally everyone!
Yep, Soroza, you have summed up my feelings exactly. Reading into them didn't fill me with confidence for my chances. But we shouldn't be surprised, I mean I have watched many games recently, but I have only applied for two because of the DM's first post and subsequent support of the applicants. It all bodes well for the game.
Cheers
That is an impressive list French Wolf; it's not too often the lists put together get a short blurb about the character other than the usual statistical information.
Anyway, I'm planning to get the background up for you in the next day or so GMoL.
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Awesome summary, French Wolf.
I've been meaning to update the submissions list but I've been swamped at work.
#of games is a tiebreaker, folks with 9+ games ultimately have an equal chance as those with 0 as long as your submission is strong. But if there are two or three characters all vying for those last couple slots, yeah, it'll go to tiebreaker.
Thanks
Who needs pretty when it gets things done?
True enough!
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@Alecks Var
Great, thanks!
To everyone else:
I'm going to a continuing education training session for my job until Saturday, so I won't be around here much until then. I'll have time to keep up with my one ongoing campaign and thats it.
I just wanted to say in advance: thanks so much for all your effort and hard work. I hope that the game lives up to your efforts.
Best of luck at the session! Personally, I am kind of glad I haven't had to do any of those for my two jobs....
Hello friends!
Just a friendly reminder that submissions are due tomorrow. Fluff is more important than crunch. I'll accept a submission that has the fluff all the way complete, but I won't accept a submission that's just a character sheet and no background!
I'll have my decision ready on Saturday sometime in the evening :)
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I woke up all excited today because I thought it was the 27th. No luck there! Saturday night seems a looooong way away!
Almost Davi, almost. I for one, can't wait, but alas, I have work to keep my mind busy tomorrow and Saturday.
@Volreg: I'm almost jealous of you for having something to keep you distracted. I keep refreshing the page hoping for updates the way one might look into the fridge over and over again to see if there's food.
I'm going to add a few flavor items to my sheet I think. I'm going to stay with 5 charisma after all though, it's too much a part of Anthony now for me to change it.
@Anthony, it's mainly the fact that I work weird hours during the week, and some Saturdays I am busy working retail. I'll add some extra fluff later tonight as well.
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My solution to constant refreshing is to draft out a half orc character for Giantslayer. We have agreed to all be part of the same tribe - Black Sun mercenaries.
Its a silly exercise because our DM plans for us to roll 5d4 Ironman altogether and build a party from there. Therefore I'm building several different concepts to cover for what I may end up with, depending on whether I roll high Con or Cha, for instance.
Also today is the end of the school spring term so I'll have two little blighters and a wife under my feet for the next two weeks. Chaos reigns.
Cheers one and all
Bit disappointed I didn't see this until now, it looks like a cool campaign but...yikes that is a LOT of competition and there's just no way I could pull together a great application for this with only a day to think about what kind of character I'd like to play.
Oh well.
I generally play PFS, so haven't played any home games and general APs. As for pbp, most of the stuff I did play were mostly in various message boards without any die rolls, so anybody could do pretty much anything, which bored me to tears after a while. I love challenge when it comes to my characters. Without challenge, I don't particularly stay interested, which is why I have only two spell casters (summoner and cleric) in PFS right now, and one is definitely flavored up, rather than all powerful. The other, is a Merciful Healer, which I haven't played just yet, but will next month.
One of my favorite characters, whom is a bard, has died once, and came close many times. Why optimise, when you can have fun?
Woo for chaos! Have the little ones start to learn these styles of games? My roommate's son is trying to learn, and seems to be quite interested.
Bit disappointed I didn't see this until now, it looks like a cool campaign but...yikes that is a LOT of competition and there's just no way I could pull together a great application for this with only a day to think about what kind of character I'd like to play.
Oh well.
Just think up a couple of concepts and go haywire! Once I saw that occult could be entered, I spent a bit just figuring out how I would play him off. Volreg is from a farming community, so he doesn't know the best manners, but he tries, at times.
If you do try, I wish the best of luck!
Best of luck at the session! Personally, I am kind of glad I haven't had to do any of those for my two jobs....
It's not so bad. Kind of like a mini-vacation that you get paid to do, except with the caveat that you spend 9 hours a day listening to people drone on and on about stuff.
@CommandoDude
If you have free time today its not too late ;)
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My son's dwarf ranger was captured by goblins, Volreg. He isn't so keen after that. Especially when his npc fighter friend drank a cursed potion and turned into a chicken. He currently plays minecraft whenever we let him.
Daughter is a bit young, although her bluff skill is already impressive.
cheers
My son's dwarf ranger was captured by goblins, Volreg. He isn't so keen after that. Especially when his npc fighter friend drank a cursed potion and turned into a chicken. He currently plays minecraft whenever we let him.
Daughter is a bit young, although her bluff skill is already impressive.
cheers
I'm sorry, I know it must have been traumatizing for your son, but I just laughed so hard at that. Situations like that are why I love tabletop, so many random funny things can happen.
Yeah, I know the feeling. The roommate's kid wanted to fight a character that was way out of his league, mostly by punching him. I said he could try, but wouldn't like it. One shot, and half health later, he was whining.
I really didn't want to be the bad guy in the situation, so, I had my character stop the encounter, by warning him again.
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Hey guys I too am feeling the pain of waiting. my saturday game got canceled (not pbp) so I'm upset. However I have a solution to boredom that I will share with all of you. (I am very wise. I'm super cereal right now)
Roll up a character lvl old school. Really old school 3d6 in order. No rerolls. Funny as hell. Legit rolls only. I will start.
I will note right now that this is for the lulz, and are not submissions. Just in case to avoid confusion. I wanna rock my druid on.
str:15 dex:12 con: 8 int:9 wis:12 cha:4
The hemophiliac barbarian whose nose and tongue were torn off in when he made inappropriate comments to the wrong cleric of calistria.
Also he has the worst sense of humor you have ever heard in your entire life, and he makes jokes incessantly
Also those rolls were legit, seriously even the charisma.
;)
Good thing I don't roll old-school, ha.
Urim Nijin is a gnome ninja. He has a homely, narrow face, balding white hair in a horrible combover, and wears crisp, all-black leather. His eyes are hooded and grey, and his skin is a warm brown. He wields a kusari-gama, but not very effectively, because his sword arm was crippled a year ago in an epic ninja battle against his arch-nemesis who is also his one true love. Despite this, he is still seeking employment as a ninja, because he doesn't have any other marketable skills. He is incredibly gullible, but benevolent.
In other news:
Submissions are now closed.
If you're like sitting at your keyboard frantically typing, post something within the next hour and I will consider your submission.
Otherwise, I have my decision made. I'll post in an hour. It'll be 6 players, which is something I was trying really hard to avoid, but there were two of you I couldn't decide between (and you also were within 1 active pbp of each other to make it worse >_>).
Dun dun dun. Suspense! :O
Volreg claps, and sits patiently, awaiting to hear who the top of the class are.